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Offline Guppy35

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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 10:39:35 PM »
The only desire I'd have would be to go back and meet some of my hero's when they were younger.   I wouldn't want to take the risks they had to.  It's easy to look at it from the safety of home.  Spend some time around those vets and you'll find very few if any that would go back and do it again.  What they remember is the friendships and the shared experiences.  And they miss the friends that never made it home.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2011, 11:23:47 PM »
no way i would like to join any battle with any or no weapons, no i wouldnt like. its fun on my PC screen and thats how far i wish to go, i like beeing alive worried about what do to with the future, making my girlfriend happy, playing Fligth simulations, im sure it isnt fun to be worried wether or not your house will be bombed and all your family instaly die because of some &!$hole.
Anyway.. FPS's and Combat simulations are fun.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2011, 11:41:26 PM »
GO back in time....to fight in a war.....seems like a waste of a goood time machine ....i undertake this thread knowing its more so a way of asking what thrones ww2 fantasy would b....n while id love flying a 190a5 in combat im sure that fun would stop once rounds flew past my canopy...I'm not saying iys wrong to idolize those men, hell, they are heros....but they fought n died so that some day we wouldn't have too (at least against the germans\japs\italians)...war is ugly, cruel, cold and unforgiving...even if you could go back and be one of the "lucky" ones who lived without physical injuries, the situations these men were in is NOTHING  to seek....the army for me was a "band if brothers fantasy" come true...at first...then u realize the faces the actors wore failed to tell you what its really like...

 sorry to trail off so much here, perhaps its  just the brew talking...something just irked me about wishing to go back to fight in a war as it were one giant role play game....

Please dont think I dont support them or those who wish to fight, I proudly continue to wear my acus, only atm I lack my body armor :) my time in the army has been both the best and worst times I have had, and if your interested in that sort of band of brothers stuff, try it out, just know what your too expect.

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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2011, 12:42:15 AM »
i guess this just shows how many people are willing to fight for their country.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2011, 01:01:16 AM »
i guess this just shows how many people are willing to fight for their country.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2011, 01:02:36 AM »
There's no way I'd want to have to actually fight in any war.  The risk of real death and killing is too high.

I felt incredibly fortunate that after graduating from high school I was rated 1A and number 56 or something like that in the draft and they ended the draft.  I didn't have to go and instead went to college then entered the workforce.

That said as a kid I always played soldier or war games with my friends and cousins; sneaking through the woods to ambush and "kill" my opponents.  There certainly was a fascination with it, likely from hearing about my father's participation in WWII first as an infintryman and later as a merchant marine.  He had 4-5 "picture books" chronicalling the war.  They were hard covered books with several hundred pages in each of black and white photos.  I spent all my spare time looking through these books absolutely fascinated and even though he had experienced things I'm sure he hoped I'd never have to he never discouraged my own interest in this.  I'd be relatively sure most boys growing up in my age group have similar experiences.

My interest/fascination with this continues today.  Almost all the games I've played through my life, be they board games or computer games have been war games based at least roughly on WWII.  No other war era has kept my interest like this one, again, probably due in large part to my father although I do have a passing interest in other war eras.  I watch every war movie, have read most war books, watch war TV shows, etc., etc., etc.

All that said it's one thing to have an interest and to pretend and quite another to actually participate.  I have great interest in the former and little in the latter although after it was much too late in my life I felt like I may have missed out on something by not joining the military.  For that reason I salute those who have chosen to serve.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2011, 01:06:58 AM »
EDit: deleted to remain some what polite :)
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2011, 01:44:08 AM »
EDit: deleted to remain some what polite :)

dont worry about it.its not like i care what u post.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2011, 02:00:06 AM »
dont worry about it.its not like i care what u post.

Eh I feel no need to argue. Anytime ud like to play grunt feel free to visit a recruiter.

On your time travels as a marine grunt, might i suggest wake  island starting in 1941? Sounded fun to me
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2011, 12:40:36 PM »
i guess this just shows how many people are willing to fight for their country.

Really? You're that stupid?  :huh
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2011, 12:43:59 PM »
You know, we all say "war is hell"...and we are right. Yet there is something in the heart of each man that does fundamentally love the blare of martial trumpets. This is the reason young men competed and strove to fly these planes in combat, and were dissapointed if assigned a non-combat job. Why else do we ourselves play this game? Perhaps we can have fewer wars if we admit that there *are* attractive aspects to it.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 01:04:43 PM »
You know, we all say "war is hell"...and we are right. Yet there is something in the heart of each man that does fundamentally love the blare of martial trumpets. This is the reason young men competed and strove to fly these planes in combat, and were dissapointed if assigned a non-combat job. Why else do we ourselves play this game? Perhaps we can have fewer wars if we admit that there *are* attractive aspects to it.

BnZs, I do not disagree one bit.... If I were a young man in the late '30's I would have volunteered for pilot training, or caught a boat for England if I thought it would get me into the air to do my part. The future was very much uncertain then, and there was a job that needed to be done. Of course I've dreamed of what it must have been like, the "awesomeness" of being at the controls of such machines....

But that is a settled conflict, a conflict the we came out "on top" from... and it was a horrible horrible thing, win or lose. There is NO good reason to wish to revisit it in person and be subjected to it, especially for some ignorant idea that glory could be gained from going back in time to take part in it, especially in the PTO as a Marine. I'll guarantee that the child who started this thread would be pizing hi pants and crying to get back into his time machine within 5 minutes of being loaded into that LVT, seeing the smoke, and hearing the gunfire, explosions, and noise of war, much less the screams and suffering he would enounter when he actually hit the beach.

But the most repulsive notion put forth yet so far is the idea that which side someone weighs in on in this conversation is somehow a measuring stick of that person's willingness to fight for his/her country? I dare anyone to say that to my face. My brother witnessed combat up close, and killed people at arm's length... and it haunts him. I've seen what war has done to family members of mine... uncles on both my wife's and my side that fought on the ground in Viet Nam, and still have demons 40+ years later.

Would I go if there were such a fight now, and I were of age? Heck yes, the only reason that the military isn't my career right now is a doctor told me it couldn't be in 1992, not in the form that I wanted. If I could have seen the future and what the future 10 years off would hold I probably would have gone in anyway. Hindsight is 20/20 and all....

But to wish to go back in time, for nothing but some silly sense of misplaced personal glory?

Pure stupidity.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 01:10:32 PM »
i guess this just shows how many people are willing to fight for their country.

And what does that mean? Especially if one's country is Germany? :)
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 01:22:48 PM »
i guess this just shows how many people are willing to fight for their country.

     Well I actually enlisted, not a hypothetical what if like your proposal.  I was very lucky in that we had a period
of cold war rather than a hot one.  Of course I was not clairvoyant so I couldn't know that I wouldn't have to fight.
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Re: to go back and fight
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 01:26:20 PM »
i guess this just shows how many people are willing to fight for their country.

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