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Offline Mister Fork

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Death of the flip-flop
« on: January 24, 2019, 09:44:03 AM »
Not quite sure what code in Aces High that causes this strange phenomena, but it needs to go away.   It looks really odd...

I was showing Aces High to a friend and I was on the six of a P-38 - it was kind of a 'hold my beer' event to demonstrate how awesome this game is...except the Lightning started flip-flopping in front of me (stalled?) just as I was about to line up for a shot, my buddy (who is also a pilot) started to howl with laughter. It just looks weird and not a normal physics response for any aircraft. It's like they go from normal flying to full bore "I've lost my tail" falling spin, except that they're slow and spinning in the air in front of you.

Please, we need the beached trout syndrome to disappear...
« Last Edit: January 24, 2019, 09:46:34 AM by Mister Fork »
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Offline Bruv119

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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2019, 09:46:23 AM »
+1  never happened in AH2.  Lag yes , warping yes,  cartwheeling stalls at crucial moments then instant recovery no!

I believe krup or junky showed several videos of it occurring. 

Not sure why it ever started in AH3.   
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 10:04:02 AM »
+1 Seems to be a flaw in the flight modeling.  Nothing close to reality.
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2019, 01:09:47 PM »
I have seen the same. Definite WTH moment.
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2019, 01:28:41 PM »
+1
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 02:32:38 PM »
Quote from: Bruv119 on January 24, 2019, 09:46:23 AM
+1  never happened in AH2.  Lag yes , warping yes,  cartwheeling stalls at crucial moments then instant recovery no!

I believe krup or junky showed several videos of it occurring. 

Not sure why it ever started in AH3.

A new feature for AH3 and it looks freaking ridiculous.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 04:53:30 PM »
Quote from: Puma44 on January 24, 2019, 10:04:02 AM
+1 Seems to be a flaw in the flight modeling.  Nothing close to reality.

I suspect it's not to do with flight modelling, but the way the predictive network model works.
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 06:04:04 PM »
is it all 3 38's  L-J-G?
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Offline Mister Fork

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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 11:56:38 PM »
Quote from: lunaticfringe on January 24, 2019, 06:04:04 PM
is it all 3 38's  L-J-G?

all fighter aircraft suffer this effect...
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2019, 08:47:42 AM »
Film might help. AH film has info the video doesn't have. If someone already sent film in and it still happens it's likely internet related in which case any cure could be worse than the current problem.

I'm assuming nobody can do it themselves, they can only see it happening occasionally to an online player.
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Offline Chalenge

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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2019, 11:15:14 AM »
It's been around as long as I've been playing.
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2019, 01:45:54 PM »
Quote from: FLS on January 25, 2019, 08:47:42 AM
Film might help. AH film has info the video doesn't have. If someone already sent film in and it still happens it's likely internet related in which case any cure could be worse than the current problem.

I'm assuming nobody can do it themselves, they can only see it happening occasionally to an online player.

Some people can do it on command.  People have reported this many times and provided film only to be told that it is normal flying.  Here is a 50 odd page waste of time about the same issue.  https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,381703.msg5082557.html#msg5082557
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2019, 01:58:11 PM »
Looks like a full rudder, hard elevator. 
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Re: Death of the flip-flop
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2019, 02:59:21 PM »
Quote from: FESS67 on January 25, 2019, 01:45:54 PM
Some people can do it on command.  People have reported this many times and provided film only to be told that it is normal flying.  Here is a 50 odd page waste of time about the same issue.  https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,381703.msg5082557.html#msg5082557


Two different discussions I think. Some people are talking about planes appearing to flip 180 when they aren't vs planes actually swapping ends.
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