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Offline Condor11

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Re: 190 training
« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2011, 07:01:05 PM »

i feel ya man.   it can be sooooooo frustrating, but as an airplane i just love it.    will always be my favorite plane, no matter if it sucks or not.    :airplane:

Thats part of the reason I loooove it as well. I can't stand flying spits or ponies, and while I love the d9, it doesn't feel as well a fit as the a 9,.

 I must apologize I used agility out of context, I hadn't meant it in a turnie way, rather in its roll and quickness to respond to control input. I qould argue however its roll is a bigger threat than mostrealize .while a pilot on to of their game isnt usually suckered in, I quite often drag someone into a scissors either forcing a slow over shoot or filling my gunsight with their canopy

 but as many have started I know its not the best, but rather a plane I reallly enjoy, and thats y I fly it.



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Re: 190 training
« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2011, 08:23:58 PM »
IMO the A5 is easily the most versatile 190 in the game presently, flown correctly it can compete with just about every other aircraft besides jets.

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Re: 190 training
« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2011, 09:18:16 PM »
IMO the A5 is easily the most versatile 190 in the game presently, flown correctly it can compete with just about every other aircraft besides jets.

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Re: 190 training
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2011, 11:12:09 AM »
The A5 has better handling IMHO against 109's.  By that I mean it's more responsive to control which will give a savvy pilot a decent advantage, especially in creating overshoots.  Add the sick roll rate and other characteristics and you have a solid bird.  I prefer to use it when I don't have as much time to climb out as I would want with an A8 or D9.  Just get off the deck, put a couple thousand feet between you and the deck and then use slashing tactics.


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Re: 190 training
« Reply #79 on: June 16, 2011, 06:31:57 PM »
I can't help but find amusement and great irony in the majority that discredits the A5's maneuverability also talks highly and proudly of its potent lethality against buffs.   :rofl   :lol  :noid  :bhead  I love this thread.
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Re: 190 training
« Reply #80 on: June 16, 2011, 08:59:23 PM »
I can't help but find amusement and great irony in the majority that discredits the A5's maneuverability also talks highly and proudly of its potent lethality against buffs.   :rofl   :lol  :noid  :bhead  I love this thread.


I...uh...I don't understand why that's inconsistent...?

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Re: 190 training
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2011, 04:12:19 AM »
I'm with you OM, I don't get it.

An FW will turn with a 109? An F or a G2 will eat a 190 A5's lunch. Like I said, I love to fly em and they have a few tricks, but they are severly handicapped.

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Re: 190 training
« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2011, 01:01:51 AM »

I...uh...I don't understand why that's inconsistent...?

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The A5 is undergunned compared to the A8 and D9, making it somewhat less effective at killing buffs.


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Re: 190 training
« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2011, 04:32:43 AM »
The A5 is undergunned compared to the A8 and D9, making it somewhat less effective at killing buffs.
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The a5 has a heavy gun pkg with 4 20mm, the d9 only 2....not sure the ballistics on the a5, I know the a5 has 2 less effective cannons than most but thet are certainly more firepower than the d9 with only 2. (the cowl guns on the d9 are better mgs but not quite on par with buff killing). The a8 thought undoubtly has the heaviest tho
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Re: 190 training
« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2011, 11:31:50 AM »
The A5 is undergunned compared to the A8 and D9, making it somewhat less effective at killing buffs.

The a5 has a heavy gun pkg with 4 20mm, the d9 only 2....not sure the ballistics on the a5, I know the a5 has 2 less effective cannons than most but thet are certainly more firepower than the d9 with only 2. (the cowl guns on the d9 are better mgs but not quite on par with buff killing). The a8 thought undoubtly has the heaviest tho

The MGFF's available on the A5 aren't very effective outside about 200 yards and there aren't many rounds.  While I take them occasionally they are barely worth the weight penalty and I lke to do my buff killing from a somewhat safer distance.
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Re: 190 training
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2011, 02:55:58 PM »
yeah, I was discounting the MG FF's. 60 rounds per gun and crappy ballistics, and you are stuck with the extra weight once the ammo is gone.  So yeah, you have more lead to throw around, but not for long, and it will probably miss. :)


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Re: 190 training
« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2011, 03:34:07 PM »
yeah, I was discounting the MG FF's. 60 rounds per gun and crappy ballistics, and you are stuck with the extra weight once the ammo is gone.  So yeah, you have more lead to throw around, but not for long, and it will probably miss. :)

You know, ive have honestly never had much issue with them. I consider my self a mediocre shot at best, yet I still seem to easily land critical shots well past d400. Maybe its just the volume of lead, but the ballistics dont seem any where near as bad as the la7.

If some one has stats for the guns or more detailed information about what that weight does id love to see it.  :ahand

Currently I always take heavy gun pkg, and I find that although its only 60 rounds per gun thats more than enough to knock 2-3 cons out through shots of all types. most of the reason im hesitant to discount these guns is 1) the snapshots and deflections I often get would seem to b less than lethal with only 2, where as 4 is enough to wreck them. 2) ive never noticed a tangible difference with weight from them being and issue. 3) in the ma where you often find yourself bounced by more then 1v1, the extra knockdown offers a better chance at survival than the a5s other traits since its not quite fast enough to escape several birds out there, and it doesnt out turn several more. I believe one should use a planes strengths wherever possible, and firepower  in the a5seems to have a clear edge over the majority of other fighters.

Just my observations, so please feel free to pick at and put out some more info. Thanks for all the help thus far


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Re: 190 training
« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2011, 04:07:21 PM »
Condor, it you want to know more about the MGFF's ballistics just take a 109E-4 out for a spin.  That's all you get are the MGFF's.  They are, ballistically, among the worse cannons in the game although I still love flying the 109E-4.
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Re: 190 training
« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2011, 04:08:49 PM »
Condor, it you want to know more about the MGFF's ballistics just take a 109E-4 out for a spin.  That's all you get are the MGFF's.  They are, ballistically, among the worse cannons in the game although I still love flying the 109E-4.

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