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Offline bustr

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Win7 64Bit Services
« on: July 07, 2011, 05:56:56 PM »
I run a batch file before the game to shut down services. I get it down to 33-32 running when it finishes.

Problem is that Win7 seems to turn some back on in the background about 30-60 minutes later and the game takes a (.exe) dump to the desktop. I beleive it happens when Win7 decides to restart Windows Update and BIT. I've tried running the batch file in administrator mode. Win7 gets me down to 32 running services at that point. But, still restarts a few in the background later on.

Do I need to change accounts and be the administrator when I run the batch file and play the game? Or is this just one of the Win7 annoyences we have to live with? I don't want to write a VBscript that stops and changes each service to disabled after they stop. Even GameBooster has the same problem with services restarting after it shuts them down.

Skuzzy how do you keep your services shut off for the duration of your game session?

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Re: Win7 64Bit Services
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 06:29:09 PM »
Heya bustr,

go check out either www.blackviper.com or use  www.processlibrary.com  to see what service is what

and adjust your services via  services.msc

you can disable, stop, enable, set to automatic, set to automatic delayed, set to start/enabled at bootup, set to manual, etc.......

this would be your best bet rather than trying to use a Kill program or gamebooster program like alacrityPC or whatever it is called.......


hope this helps

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Re: Win7 64Bit Services
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 08:23:44 PM »
I can write a VBscript using WMI that will enumerate the services from a list, stop them, then set to disabled, then its reverse for after the game. What I'm requesting is knowlege of why Win7 sees fit to restart some of these services 30-60 minutes later if I don't disable them completely regardless of being set to "Manual" and or simply stopped.

And if anyone has a remedy or technical knowlege of this process and how to intercept it. My refrence to gamebooster is the observation that it's creator is only stopping services based on a common listing of services in an editable (.ini) flat file and cannot stop some if you do not run it "as administrator". Also the same 30-60 minute issue affects gamebooster under Win7.

Does anyone have knowlege of this process issue and how to address it other than VBscript or manualy stopping services then changing them to disabled then reversing the process to restart the services?

I would rather it be the following command script "run as" administrator but, so far Win7 restarts a number of the enumerated services 30-60minutes later which caused (aceshigh.exe) to bugcheck to the desktop each time. The culprit seems to be win update and BITS which when I disabled them the issue stopped but, as some of the services were restarted by Win7 during the game it could be tracked in the "varyence and delay" graph from the clip board.

NET STOP AeLookupSvc
NET STOP BITS
NET STOP Browser
NET STOP DPS
NET STOP WdiServiceHost
NET STOP TrkWks
NET STOP fdPHost
NET STOP FDResPub
NET STOP HomeGroupProvider
NET STOP IKEEXT
NET STOP iphlpsvc
NET STOP PolicyAgent
NET STOP Netman
NET STOP netprofm
NET STOP NlaSvc
NET STOP CscService
NET STOP PNRPsvc
NET STOP p2psvc
NET STOP p2pimsvc
NET STOP Power
NET STOP Spooler
NET STOP wscsvc
NET STOP SSDPSRV
NET STOP SysMain
NET STOP Themes
NET STOP wudfsvc
NET STOP FontCache
NET STOP stisvc
NET STOP wlidsvc
NET STOP WSearch
NET STOP TrustedInstaller
NET STOP wuauserv

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Re: Win7 64Bit Services
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 08:40:54 AM »
sounds like you may be running into a dependency issue. stop a service then set it to manual and any other service that depends on it will make that service start up again. there are some services that cannot be stopped due to dependencies from core system services, stop them manually and some dependent service will restart them, not sure if you're attempting anything like that.

on a fresh boot my system sits at 35 processes until i kill all the anti-virus processes, that's from doing similar to what tc suggested, but i used the services control panel not msc. the services i know for a fact my system does not need and i do not want running at all have been disabled. others have been set to manual so that any running service that depends on them will start them up as needed and a simple reboot brings my system right back to running as trim as i want it.
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Re: Win7 64Bit Services
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 11:49:09 AM »
This was easier with XP. I'll map the dependancies.

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Re: Win7 64Bit Services
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 03:36:24 PM »
I disabled about a 1/3 of the services on that list. No more restarts of (manual) state services from dependancy issues.

Mostly it was with the computer browser and all the services related to windows update or for installing the updates. When my (stopservice.bat) finishs I have 33 services running. 38 standard after I disabled everything I don't really need for day to day use. I still have to run the script as administrator under win7 to shut down many of the services in the list if I'm not performing it manualy from the services GUI.

WMI is pissy about service names being spelled correctly in terms of capitol and small letters.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.