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Offline icepac

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bi-plane and flight model musical chairs.
« on: July 17, 2011, 11:17:24 AM »
Since the I15's (biplane) flight model already exists with our current brewster, maybe we could bring in the plane that actually flew like the flight model.

We could shave some MPH from the current brewster flight model and use damage modeling ques from some of the WWI aircraft and arrive at a good I15 flight model.

Then we could take the KI61 flight model and shave some mph and climb from it and arrive at a more accurate brewster flight model.


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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 12:20:17 PM »
It has become clear to me that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 01:04:06 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 04:11:07 PM »
icepac,

I have no idea where you got those absurd ideas, but I will tell you they bear no resemblance to reality.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 04:21:11 PM »
It has become clear to me that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

It took you this long?   :huh



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Re: bi-plane and flight model musical chairs.
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 04:38:17 PM »
It took you this long?   :huh



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Re: bi-plane and flight model musical chairs.
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 07:47:19 AM »
Wow.....so you guys think the Brewster flight model is accurate?

I think it's turn performance is closer to the I15 than it is to the B239.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 08:13:48 AM »
Flight modeling isn't about "cutting" stuff. Otherwise we'd be playing IL-2 Sturmovik.

How can you have the slightest idea on how behaved these planes in real life?
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 08:40:42 AM »
From the time I spent restoring planes at the smithsonian and poring over manuals from the archives maybe?

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Re: bi-plane and flight model musical chairs.
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 08:59:44 AM »
If you want to properly criticize the turn performance you should post your data for the Finnish Brewster model we have in AH and contrast it to the in-game turn performance so that we can see what the problem is.

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 09:20:28 AM »
From the time I spent restoring planes at the smithsonian and poring over manuals from the archives maybe?

speed, climb rate, measured turn performance is only the emerged part of the airflow iceberg.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 09:47:13 AM »
From you guy's reasoning, nobody can comment on a flight model.

This includes you as well.

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 10:15:48 AM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 11:16:29 AM »
...How can you have the slightest idea on how behaved these planes in real life?

I have been flying a 5700lb 600hp radial engined t-6 texan about every other weekend sometimes in formation with another t-6.

if your interested in what flying real warbirds is like I recomend the t-6 as it is actually available in many locations with about 5-600 of them still around and a good majority are flying. the cockpit of the t-6 and p51 are quite similar with them both being built by north american. it is said the p51 is actually easier to fly.


back to your origional statement of how these planes behave in real life...
let me say this. Aces High models the airspeeds and the flight characteristics just fine. what is not modelled is the actual sensation of you being in a fire breathing military warbird with its deafening engine noise, vibration, heat, wind, turbulence, G forces and the actual workload of maintaining visual contact with your target and or wingman while the horizon is going in strange directions.

the game gives you a glimps of the real thing and its depiction of the area being glimpsed at is very well done and entertaining. the rest is beyond our current technology.
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Re: bi-plane and flight model musical chairs.
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 12:09:44 PM »
From you guy's reasoning, nobody can comment on a flight model.

This includes you as well.

Everyone is free to comment. If you want your claim that the Brewster flight model is incorrect to be taken seriously then you need to post the relevant data.