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Offline LThunderpocket

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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2011, 04:51:16 PM »
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2011, 06:02:14 PM »
Quote from: iron650 on July 18, 2011, 04:08:51 PM
How about the regular ones with the 2pdr, 6pdr, and 75mm?

2lber would be very weak, almost impossible to kill something in the MA. It could punch through 48mm of armor IIRC.

6lber would be a bit weaker than the M4(75) for penetration

75mm would be about the same.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 18, 2011, 06:02:14 PM
2lber would be very weak, almost impossible to kill something in the MA. It could punch through 48mm of armor IIRC.

6lber would be a bit weaker than the M4(75) for penetration

75mm would be about the same.

tsk tsk tsk.....   you are wrong on 2 counts, or right on only 1 of 3 counts, you're call.   :D  The 6 Pdr was actually better than the 75mm, especially with the HV ammo, fire rate was very close the same.  And the 75mm on the Churchill is the EXACT same gun/ammo found on the Sherman M4A1/M4A3 75mm, so no difference there what-so-ever.   ;)  And yes, the Churchill with the 2 Pdr (40mm) would be like arming the M4A3 with the M8's 37mm.   

Armor wouldnt be much different that the Panzer IV or Sherman, it'd be slower though.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2011, 06:40:20 PM »
ROQF 75mm is a bored out 6lber. Not a US gun, but it does use the same amunition. ROF would be a bit slower I think, but I'm not sure.

And it would be worse than an M4 with a 37mm. The US 37mm was great for a gun of its caliber. I can't think of anything that can match it. Quick online check, compared it to ingame data from KwK 40, M3 75mm, M1 76mm guns and it was close (within a few mm) to ingame data.

Says the 2lber was capable of 61mm at 500yds, from which I would guess it was capable of around 68mm or so at 0 yds. At combat ranges, it would be near useless.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2011, 07:46:11 PM »
The Churchill gets a  :rock  from me!  +1
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Which variant? Pffffft - the AVRE of course
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2011, 07:48:26 PM »
In a switch from my usual dry technical appeal based on merit, historical accuracy, blah blah blah...

I WANT THE AVRE WITH THE PETARD MORTAR REALLY, REALLLLLLLYYY BAD.  :O

If you ever played Company of Heroes you know what I mean.

Perk it, uber perk it, make it only available from certain fields, hose the reload time, whatever cruelty is needed.

There are probably other rides (air/ground/water/underwater  :x) that are more deserving to be added first but from a purely "fun" perspective it would be hard to top the AVRE.

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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2011, 01:19:35 AM »
 :aok


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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2011, 06:23:50 AM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 18, 2011, 06:02:14 PM
2lber would be very weak, almost impossible to kill something in the MA. It could punch through 48mm of armor IIRC.

6lber would be a bit weaker than the M4(75) for penetration

75mm would be about the same.

They came at different times so the EW, MW, and LW is covered.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2011, 07:18:52 PM »
Well yeah, but HTC could spend their time better than to model the 2lber. The 6lber would be at least USEABLE in the MA. Churchill Mk II variants would probably see the lowest sortie numbers of all GV's once the "new" wears off.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2011, 07:30:17 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 19, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
Well yeah, but HTC could spend their time better than to model the 2lber. The 6lber would be at least USEABLE in the MA. Churchill Mk II variants would probably see the lowest sortie numbers of all GV's once the "new" wears off.

Depends, if HTC does an early war models with Crusader tanks, Panzer 3 then most would be all over the Churchill for its Armor.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2011, 07:36:57 PM »
Would be perked for its armor. Consider that the T-34 is nearly invincible to the crusader, panzer III E, M3 stuart, BT-7, and the result is that the T-34 gives you the most bang for your buck as far as tanks. Panzer III H is only on the list because we need SOMETHING to counter it. The Ausf. L would be better in the MA, especially if it got HVAP, and would be useable in place of the H for special events.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2011, 07:41:52 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 19, 2011, 07:36:57 PM
Would be perked for its armor. Consider that the T-34 is nearly invincible to the crusader, panzer III E, M3 stuart, BT-7, and the result is that the T-34 gives you the most bang for your buck as far as tanks. Panzer III H is only on the list because we need SOMETHING to counter it. The Ausf. L would be better in the MA, especially if it got HVAP, and would be useable in place of the H for special events.

Like all things, Early war and Mid war would have its perk rides - Imagine the Tiger being available in 1942 would classify it under mid war - there wasn't an AT gun able to penetrate its front armor period.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2011, 07:59:36 PM »
the QF 6pdr could be used on a bunch of british chassis, and the M3, and the Tsetse. the armour penetration would make it useful in even LW. probably the best bang-for-coading-buck gun we havent got yet :aok
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011, 10:04:28 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 19, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
the QF 6pdr could be used on a bunch of british chassis, and the M3, and the Tsetse. the armour penetration would make it useful in even LW. probably the best bang-for-coading-buck gun we havent got yet :aok
Somehow I think the GVers would be horrified if getting a vehicle they asked for opened the way for the 'Tsetse' to be added.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011, 10:07:47 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 19, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
Somehow I think the GVers would be horrified if getting a vehicle they asked for opened the way for the 'Tsetse' to be added.

The Tse-Tse?  :D  Anyone know what a tse-tse is??? It makes perfect sense once ya find out.   :)
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