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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: 190F8
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2011, 06:34:58 PM »
But if I missed the first 2 rockets but the third hits, how is it any worse than slavoing 3 and making a kill.
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2011, 06:39:42 PM »
Practice, practice and more practice until you can makes successful kills and the sight picture is burned into your brain.
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2011, 10:22:28 PM »
All of that was from about an hour offline killing a T34. Salvo 2 had the most consistant kill effect over 6 sortie. The Revi16 I use for the K4 works for the PB1 on the same 400 and 600 yard marks as the MK108. MK108 trajectory is the same as the PB1. I modified the Revi16 by removing the lower half of the vertical line and put a space in the middel of the two hash marks so on zoom I can see the tank. After that it's just practice offline for a few sortie.

Anymore simple would be taxying up to the tank and firing stationairy point blank.
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2011, 05:52:52 AM »
I made a gunsight graticule for it a while ago. You still have to follow Bustr's instructions though. He is the reference when it comes to such material. Mine is not 100% accurate but you will have an easier time shooting and harder time THINKING. Curved lines are for each wings and both are on a different scale depending on the speed at which you make your attack (Usually with a very shallow dive angle).

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Re: 190F8
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2011, 08:11:10 AM »
If the 190F-8 attacks from a 35-45 degree angle and fires 2-3 rockets at 400 yards and closer (salvo 1), there is no need to for special gun sight or need to fuss about trajectory.

   
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 09:39:26 PM »
If the 190F-8 attacks from a 35-45 degree angle and fires 2-3 rockets at 400 yards and closer (salvo 1), there is no need to for special gun sight or need to fuss about trajectory.

   
Yeah, but this sight helps you to increase your rate of miss and use lesser rounds per pass. Either way, practice and training can only help in this kind of attack.
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 10:11:25 PM »
Is that sight Fw190F-8 specific, or would it be good for other aircraft such as the Mossie VI?
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2011, 01:13:03 AM »
When I'm in a shallow dive in, and the green cross is at the 600 or 400 Revi stadia mark, and on the tank ,and I pull the trigger. Tank always go boom in offline testing. Speed didn't matter much. The pixel map points for the 100mil ring and the stadia marks I posted are exactly the points on my Revi16 which I created from the description out of several Reflexvisier manuals. Additionaly I have a number of different Revi graticule photos. I ommited the Revi cross lines and remaining 6 stadia marks to make the construction eaiser for everyone.

I read about the trajectory being the same between the PB1 and the MK108 on one of those german language WW2 military web blogs where they get german piciune about ww2 things like this. Their resident version of Krusty mentioned the trajectory bit. Tested it and it is true in AH which is some what modeled on real life. Salvo 2 means you line straight up and don't worry about remembering which side fired last.

Lepape's graticule is a work of art. I just figure its easier to salvo 2 and shoot at 600 or 400 for most players who won't make this their AH lifes calling.
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2011, 08:42:35 PM »
Mine is not as pretty as Lepape's. It's just functional from the Revi graticule specs.

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Re: 190F8
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2011, 12:35:52 AM »
When I was flying F-8's I salvoed two in a shallow dive (15-30 degrees) and fired just as the GV dissapeared beneath my nose.  I could land six kills this way meaning every time I fired I killed a tank.
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Re: 190F8
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 01:59:06 PM »
That's the same exact technique I use in the F-8. Shallow dive, pickel 2  when the gv goes under nose. Then look for the LA-7 on your 6.. :devil

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Re: 190F8
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 07:24:55 PM »
Is that sight Fw190F-8 specific, or would it be good for other aircraft such as the Mossie VI?

I've made a gunsight for the HVAR's, the 4.5", and the 60lb rockets. The HVAR's and the 60lbers are both very effective against the panzer and panther from the rear.

But I'm having trouble with the PB1 gunsight. I would guess that these are more effected by speed, but I'd have to test them to say for sure.
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