The Inequity of it all

[100Coogn]

At the risk of banging a much worn out drum, here goes.

This is a great game. I find more now for the people you fight with and against rather than the score, K/D, hit percentage or kills landed. You catch up with people and have a laugh. You fight sometimes the same people and know after about two or three turns their style and if you are in for a whooping or not and how humiliating that whopping is going to be. Then you can either have a mutual <S> or a barrage of abuse over 200 that ends in a mutual <S> - or at the most a grudging respect. It’s all good times except........

I just can’t get next to why F3 is allowed in the DA, for the life of me. I haunt the DA probably as much as the MA for the most part. No crime in that. It’s my $15.00 ($14.08 my money today by the way) and if I want to fly a Spit XVI in the DA (or the MA for that matter) and you don’t like it - well - you don't like it - end of story. There are some good people in the DA. Great place for merging and gunnery practice... and a laugh.

But there seems to be a group of people that refuse to fly in the MA and some are quite honest about using outside view exclusively. Not only that they are very quick to talk their game up based on that. The game is never a level playing field – alt energy - plane differences – skill differences – attitude make that so. It’s not “New Sports Day” where everyone gets a prize.

But at least one glaring inconsistency can be removed to at least get to a point where it is worthwhile and can really hone your game.

As I said, it’s been raised before and it probably will again. I don’t want to change the world, just a small portion of it.

Cheers.

Way to get this BBS motivated. 
<S> sir.

Coogan

[Raphael]

And far better at protecting your K/D.

Ok i fly the hurri D a lot and i gotta say that people that up the IL-2 get a far better K/D then i do, and also i see IL-2s up way more often with the b25s and such so i don't think the IL-2 died in any way, just telling you what i see. people use the Il-2 and are skilled with it they even use it as a figther.

[Changeup]

Im glad you have a man hero to look up to, every boy should.

Ahhh, argumentum ad hominem...the argument of the weak minded.  

I'm quite certain your attempt at humoring yourself must have gotten in the way of making your point.  There really isn't any other explanation.  I'm also certain that at this point in the thread, no one can distinguish whether you are arguing to keep F3 for player participation in the IL2 or if you're arguing to keep F3 out of the game because it's easy-mode in the IL2 because the numbers prove both.  Please choose a point to make because at this particular junction, the only point I see you making is your head.

[kvuo75]

Rich, well what do you make of this?:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php

IL2 k/d

tour - k/d

138 1.04
137 1.03
136 0.86
135 0.99
134 0.99
133 0.96
132 0.94
131 0.93
130 0.92
129 0.88
128 0.96
127 0.95
126 0.97



Seems to me getting rid of F3 helped.  IL2 finally holds it's own, K/D >1

[doc1kelley]

Rich, well what do you make of this?:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php

IL2 k/d

tour - k/d

138 1.04
137 1.03
136 0.86
135 0.99
134 0.99
133 0.96
132 0.94
131 0.93
130 0.92
129 0.88
128 0.96
127 0.95
126 0.97



Seems to me getting rid of F3 helped.  IL2 finally holds it's own, K/D >1

Well that's all well and good but it's NOT a pie chart! hehehehehehheheheeh

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

All the Best...

    Jay

[Bronk]

Ohh look rich46yo is back.

[SEseph]

[You] want the facts to fit the preconceptions. When they don't it is easier to ignore the facts than to change the preconceptions. ~ Jessamyn West

Pesky facts create these long posts about... well it's mostly not about the original topic...

F3, glad it left.

[Rich52]

Had a long post done but the forum crashed and Im not going thru it again. Besides the trolls are starting to show up anyways.

The initial dip of .99 to .86, when F3 was lost, anwers your own question anyway. Then the airplane lost 2/3'rds of its players and those left no doubt moderated their use the the IL2. Can anyone really say the plane is more effective without F3 ? But my whole point is why just the IL2 ? Why would only it be stricken from the "attacker" option and not the A-20 and others. To score it now only in the "fighter" category is silly. It was not an air to air fighter. It was a bomber/attacker.

The science and History behind the decision ?

"Waaa-Waaa that IL2 is killing my perked tanks", "Waa-Waaa those IL2s are killing my fighters when I HO them on my vulch runs", and "Waa-Waaa those IL2s are killing tanks and ruining my spawn camp in my Tiger".

Rich, well what do you make of this?:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php

IL2 k/d

tour - k/d

138 1.04
137 1.03
136 0.86
135 0.99
134 0.99
133 0.96
132 0.94
131 0.93
130 0.92
129 0.88
128 0.96
127 0.95
126 0.97



Seems to me getting rid of F3 helped.  IL2 finally holds it's own, K/D >1

[kvuo75]

Can anyone really say the plane is more effective without F3 ?

it's more effective, since it is killing more than it's dying.. k/d above 1 for the first time in a year. 

I guess we might need a definition of effective.