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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 09:21:44 PM »
Its a ruger all weather M77/22, apparently they didnt make very many of them because I havent ever seen another one even at a gun show. I have a leupol 9x3 scope on it




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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2011, 09:32:40 PM »
Also the .22 looks like its made out of cheap plastic, but its actually just dull stainless.
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2011, 09:54:50 PM »
I don't know how much better of a group you'll get with higher quality ammo, but it certainly can't hurt.  A majority of hits seem to be within a 1 in group (on the center target).  I don't know if that "all weather" version is really designed for super-accurate shooter, but rather ruggedness. 
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2011, 09:56:38 PM »
Its got a bull barrel on it. One of my friends was getting 1/4" groups but he was usin on of those things that clamps the gun in place, but I dont have one of those
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2011, 10:38:48 PM »
Tight group. Sights to adjust. I would guess you have a pretty smooth, consistent trigger pull or the group would be larger. My Dad would probably hassle that first though. He always does.

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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2011, 10:51:56 PM »
Mini mags are the best you can do for off the shelf .22LR and worth it. I'll buy Federal bulk packs to throw a lot of rounds through the AR-15 conversions/uppers.  Walther P22 will shoot either reliably as will my other plinkers. Remington thunderbolt is absolute garbage and I'm cursed with a few packs of it left over from when I had a pump .22 and it didn't matter. I don't have any bolt guns in .22 or I'd be rid of that garbage by now.

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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2011, 08:09:17 AM »
on the pic of the .22 I notice both your rings for your scope are in the same spot. Why is that? most of the time you see a ring aft of the breech and one forward.
Just wonderin myself. also what kind of scope are you using?
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2011, 09:04:24 AM »
To shoot the 30/06 move up to reloading and honing custom ammo. Even bringing you 06 to a gunnie for some triggering and floating will help much. The thing is there is a store bought load your rifle will like for hunting purposes, but there is a handload that it will simply love. I could spend an hour making 10 perfect loads.  :salute
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2011, 09:11:44 AM »
If you hit down to the right that many times, you are pulling or your scope is off. That is not the wind.
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2011, 11:28:42 AM »
Spikes is correct.  Unless you have a constant wind going left to right, you probably need to re-zero your optic. 

From your Tuesday targets, the one on the right looks like you're jerking the trigger.  The one on the left has that rightward grouping also.  Make sure your scope rings are nice and tight and use thread locker on them (the blue not the red).  Also check the focus on it.  Then confirm your zero from a good supported position. 

If you were using iron sights I'd say that your eye focus might have something to do with it, but your are grouping nicely.  Keep with all your good fundamentals, sight picture and trigger press being the most important, and don't forget the follow through.  I bet once you get the scope adjusted properly you'll see those groups hit reliably at your point of aim.
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 12:25:01 PM »
Just a thought, but...

Unless you NEED to be more accurate, just buy the cheapest "name brand" ammo you can find and concentrate on shooting technique.  I used to buy blocks of remmington thunderbolt .22, and it shot just fine in my 10-22, good enough that I could see the results of good or bad technique in my groupings.

I also found that lightweight or high speed ammo was rarely more accurate than even the thunderbolt stuff, which is derided as "bad" ammo by some people.

My best advice is to try various inexpensive types before you try any sort of premium or specialty ammo like subsonic or ultra high-speed.  If you can't find decent results with the cheap stuff then try various extreme stuff like lightweight/fast, lightweight slow, heavyweight, etc.  But if you can't find a decent ammo that doesn't cost a lot, then chances are you are up against either a technique problem or a basic limitation of the gun.

My mini-14 is sort of like that...  The best ammo I found for it is anything with heavyweight bullets, the heavier the better.  But no matter what ammo I use and no matter who is shooting it (taking technique out of the equation), it still shoots no better than 3 inch groups at 100 yards, so I've found the limits of the gun.  If you can't find a good ammo and everyone gets the same results, then you may be at the limits of that gun.

It is disappointing to find that you are a more accurate shooter than your gun is capable of delivering, but throwing money at a gun that is already more accurate than you are is likewise frustrating.
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 12:45:00 PM »

I also found that lightweight or high speed ammo was rarely more accurate than even the thunderbolt stuff, which is derided as "bad" ammo by some people.


Call me one of those "some people".  The Remington Thundrbolt is awful.  It shoots very dirty and has many more FTF per box then any other 22LR ammo I have ever used.  In the cheap category, I much prefer the Blazer 22LR or even the Federal American Eagle.

The Thunderbolt stuff seems to have a good quality bullet, but the primer is spotty and the powder is dirty.  The American Eagle shoots cleaner and is much more reliable, but the projectile is visibly not manufactured as well.  I like the Blazer the best of the cheap stuff.  The projectile manufacturing quality is consistanly good, they shoot pretty cleanly, and I have had very few FTF incidents.

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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2011, 03:15:16 PM »
The reason my scope is mounted like that is because I wanted the scope as far back as possible. It's got a leupold 9x3 scope on it
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2011, 04:10:49 PM »
To shoot the 30/06 move up to reloading and honing custom ammo. Even bringing you 06 to a gunnie for some triggering and floating will help much. The thing is there is a store bought load your rifle will like for hunting purposes, but there is a handload that it will simply love. I could spend an hour making 10 perfect loads.  :salute
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Re: Went shooting today
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2011, 04:22:44 PM »
Do you still have a target from 1997? :)

I have targets from far earlier then that. When I test perfect loads for a rifle I save the targets with the load info attached on a separate piece of paper attached to them. That way I dont forget the load or how it performs. Been shooting for almost 45 years.  :salute
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