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Offline Slash27

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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2011, 01:30:47 AM »
Having the search back would be a little handy.



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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2011, 01:40:19 AM »
Secondly.  This would be the second 55th FG skin.  Cactus recently added one.  Nothing wrong with that as the color scheme is completely different.

Mine was a 20th FG bird. Raven's upper OD skin you mentioned is the only 55th P-51 that I can recall as well, and a nice one at that.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2011, 02:05:17 AM »
It would be nice to see Eager El's bird done in his memory.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2011, 02:40:52 AM »
Mine was a 20th FG bird. Raven's upper OD skin you mentioned is the only 55th P-51 that I can recall as well, and a nice one at that.
TY for that skin btw  :salute

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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2011, 08:21:22 PM »
Mine was a 20th FG bird. Raven's upper OD skin you mentioned is the only 55th P-51 that I can recall as well, and a nice one at that.

Ah yes my fault, lovely 20th skin too.  I get all those "wanna be 8th AF Fighter Groups" who transfered from twin engined bombers mixed up some times.  Thanks.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2011, 09:32:05 PM »
Fencer, did you not also wish to spread the "samples" out, diversity-wise? As mentioned we will only have so many slots, and the request was to include a diverse range of them (including PTO) as best we can?

I think you get that I was not saying "all green tails are the same" but rather that I was saying "We do have a good green tail, so maybe having multiples is counter-productive" -- regardless of the unit involved, at least that kind of marking will be represented in-game.

You could sit there and say all the units are different, and you'd be right. I could also sit here and say how all the Luftwaffe 109 units were different, and I'd be right. But I'm not advocating for more yellow-nosed Bf109F-4s, if you see my point?

My reply was not posted in ignorance -- It was posted in the spirit of moderation.

I would have replied the same if somebody were requesting a BMF Pony with a black and white checker nose. Sorry if you think I was ignoring different units, but I wasn't. It wasn't about the unit. With that said, I think it's clear what I meant now. Sorry if I irritated you.

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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2011, 10:12:05 PM »
Fencer, did you not also wish to spread the "samples" out, diversity-wise? As mentioned we will only have so many slots, and the request was to include a diverse range of them (including PTO) as best we can?

I think you get that I was not saying "all green tails are the same" but rather that I was saying "We do have a good green tail, so maybe having multiples is counter-productive" -- regardless of the unit involved, at least that kind of marking will be represented in-game.

You could sit there and say all the units are different, and you'd be right. I could also sit here and say how all the Luftwaffe 109 units were different, and I'd be right. But I'm not advocating for more yellow-nosed Bf109F-4s, if you see my point?

My reply was not posted in ignorance -- It was posted in the spirit of moderation.

I would have replied the same if somebody were requesting a BMF Pony with a black and white checker nose. Sorry if you think I was ignoring different units, but I wasn't. It wasn't about the unit. With that said, I think it's clear what I meant now. Sorry if I irritated you.

Krusty, no they are not even remotely the same.  We are spreading it out, just because they are green tailed.. sigh.. we have been through this before and you still don't get it.. that's fine.. I will keep reminding you.   ;)  And I am for any aircraft which is a different unit.  We don't have a 359th FG bird.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2011, 10:24:01 PM »
You don't need to.

If you really want a green rudder and green nose, go for it. I simply suggest caution. Lots of caution. Lots and lots of caution. Lest we get in the same boat we just got out of.


Just because it has a different number in the name doesn't make it all that distinct from the unit 1 number up or down. (I'm not going to start a war on that. I'm right, technically speaking. I'm not talking about individuals or the history of the units -- I'm talking looking at the skins list in the hangar and making a choice) We want to make it distinctive.

Look at the cookie cutter P-47s we had for a while, eh? Mostly the same except for a yellow ring around the star, or a red ring, or a blue ring. What about all the zeros with nearly identical markings (only difference being the tail stripe)? I think visual distinctiveness is JUST as important as the name of the unit that goes with it. I can probably list a dozen P-40E skins of different units that all fall into the same color scheme, or even identical markings save for the tail codes.

You cannot have a skin for every unit that used a certain plane. There were more planes used in the war than we'd ever be able to skin. You have to draw a line, correct? Logically, the solution then is to balance different units with different markings, don't you think? That way when 2 skins are next to each other on the runway, or in-flight, they are distinct from each other at a glance. In addition to having different units. That way, logically, you not only get visual diversity, you get unit diversity as well.

I'm not saying you're wrong Fencer. I'm just saying the unit alone can't be the only thing considered. It's a total package deal.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2011, 11:15:38 PM »
I'm not saying you're wrong Fencer. I'm just saying the unit alone can't be the only thing considered. It's a total package deal.

I agree with that.  Look up the pilot of the requested P-51D.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2011, 11:26:33 PM »
I agree with that.  Look up the pilot of the requested P-51D.

Amen to that.  The man who flew that machine was one heckuva fighter leader.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2011, 06:17:14 AM »
You know I wish the game supported a popup or rollover box showing information about each skin; maybe a short paragraph describing the pilot, the scheme, theater of service, etc.

Would be a great educational feature and add to the game's depth, imo.

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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2011, 06:47:31 AM »
I do hope these tangents don't annoy the regulars too much. I'm getting tired of the insulters migrating to the skins forum, and am feeling the need to defend myself repeatedly from unwarranted attacks.

Have you ever stopped and thought that it might not be the "insulters" that are the problem?
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2011, 10:04:27 AM »
So is anyone going to quit bickering and skin this beauty? :P
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2011, 05:40:43 PM »
You know I wish the game supported a popup or rollover box showing information about each skin; maybe a short paragraph describing the pilot, the scheme, theater of service, etc.

Would be a great educational feature and add to the game's depth, imo.


Rise of Flight does that for its skins but its WW1 a/c.
big Plus 1 to this skin if not for the color then the man himself.
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Re: P-51D-10 55th FG/338 FS "KATYDID"
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2011, 08:06:26 PM »
I would love to do it, but I am going to have to take a break from things for a couple months, if not longer.
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