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Offline Threeup

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #330 on: August 12, 2011, 01:59:41 AM »
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The updated List.  It's not perfect but it is damn close.  Enjoy it numptys.   :neener:

That is really good Grizz. Huzzah. No I’m not having a go either.
 
I looked at this and it really makes sense. At the root of it is, pick your bird, and pick your fight. If you fight the other guys fight, don’t blame anyone except the guy in the mirror when it doesn’t go to plan.

Well done.

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #331 on: August 12, 2011, 04:08:15 AM »
lol...all this because some dude read roman numerals wrong.

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #332 on: August 12, 2011, 07:01:38 AM »
lol...all this because some dude read roman numerals wrong.

Well in the OP's defense, Roman Numerals aren't easymode numbers.   :noid  :bolt:
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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #333 on: August 12, 2011, 07:16:15 AM »
Well in the OP's defense, Roman Numerals aren't easymode numbers.   :noid  :bolt:
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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #334 on: August 12, 2011, 07:41:42 AM »
Well in the OP's defense, Roman Numerals aren't easymode numbers.   :noid  :bolt:

This is confusing.  You think Grizz could make a Venn diagram showing us which numerals are EZ mode and which ones require incredible skill to master?


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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #335 on: August 12, 2011, 08:24:11 AM »
That is really good Grizz. Huzzah. No I’m not having a go either.
 
I looked at this and it really makes sense. At the root of it is, pick your bird, and pick your fight. If you fight the other guys fight, don’t blame anyone except the guy in the mirror when it doesn’t go to plan.

Well done.

For the rest of this thread that has become the never ending symphony of “perk this, perk that” “this is EZ, that is EZ”:
Give me your credit card details and I’ll fly whatever you want me to.

Please – and if you get some other charges that look a bit strange don’t worry. Not only are you helping me with my on line porn addiction hopefully you’re also earning loyalty points.


I know this is a big thread, but you'll have to find where I ever told anyone else what or how to fly.  All I did was call a spade a spade.  If you want to fly the EZ rides that's great.  Just have my Venn Diagram handy to check and see if what you are flying is EZ.  Looking at your stats which also refreshes my memory, that you are a die hard Spit16 pilot.  Are you British?  If not, I'm laughing at you.  :lol

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #336 on: August 12, 2011, 08:30:03 AM »
Few observations

2) Hispanos are considerably more lethal. D9 has more ammo though. Still, adv Spit
3) Spit XVI climbs much better
4) I'd give advantage in roll to Spit XVI (the band where d9 has adv is very narrow)

The only real adv D9 has is its speed and that's the only reason why majority of D9 pilots are flying it.


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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #337 on: August 12, 2011, 08:30:33 AM »
This is confusing.  You think Grizz could make a Venn diagram showing us which numerals are EZ mode and which ones require incredible skill to master?

No Venn Diagram required.

Although I will simplify the process of googling roman numerals for anyone who has difficulty reading them.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=roman+numerals

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #338 on: August 12, 2011, 09:11:03 AM »
At the risk of further confusing Leviathn, I will take my Plane Classifications a step further.  My list is based on the planes performance and how I see it utilized by the vast majority of the player base in the game.  There are exceptions however, based on flying style.  For example, if you turn a Fw190A8 like KillnU, it goes from a borderline EZ mode B&Z aircraft, to an extremely difficult Hybrid.



Colors:

Yellow: IrishOne in the 190A5.  His ability and persistence to turn it and push the envelope push the A5 into the Hybrid Category very close to the P38's class.
Blue: BigR in the P51D.  Same explanation.  He pushes the envelope and uses it for both B&Z and close range and slow speed rolling scissor getting everything out of the P51.  Quite a large jump from the normal deviation of P51D performance.
Pink: The timid noob in an La7.  He refuses to do anything with the La7 other than run.  He does not understand its capability as a fighter.  As result he turns the La7 into a one dimensional B&Z fighter down with the P51D and Tempest.  Unfortunately for him, he doesn't have the fuel to get many kills doing this.
Green: Ink in the Ki84.  While it is more difficult to push an already decent turning aircraft into non ez mode territory, INK manages to do it.  He neglects the Ki84's ability's in the vertical because it is beneath him as a warrior to not be in the thick of things turning with as many as he can.  As result of this consistent style to the Ki84, he pushes the aircraft out of the Hybrid zone into Turny Bird Zone and also out of the EZ mode zone.

So just because you fly an EZ mode plane, there is hope for a slight adjustment based on how you fly.  And just because you fly a non EZ mode plane, you might in fact be shifted into the EZ mode zone by flying it timidly in a purely one dimensional sense, like in our example with the Pink La7 Newbie.


EDIT: After a moment of reflection and a bribe from Shane that turned out to not pan out, I am slightly modifying the La7's initial placement to right on the edge of EZ mode in the Hybrid section.  A minor shift, but it kind of irks me that it is not closer to that line.

There will be one more revision to my venn diagram before it is set in stone and made official for the end of toon time, so if there are any other inconsistencies that you see let me know with your reasoning and I may make some minor adjustments.  Thank you, and Godspeed.
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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #339 on: August 12, 2011, 09:24:50 AM »
Hot Pink - the noob, vet or expert flying a Brewster.  It's ability to dodge anything in a fight coupled with it's pre-pubescent, no-skill-required flight characteristics make it the plane of choice for all easy moders.   Grizz...to not see this is to ignore the blatantly obvious....it may cause your entire body of work on this ghettolicious project to be called into question.

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #340 on: August 12, 2011, 09:28:46 AM »
Hot Pink - the noob, vet or expert flying a Brewster.  It's ability to dodge anything in a fight coupled with it's pre-pubescent, no-skill-required flight characteristics make it the plane of choice for all easy moders.   Grizz...to not see this is to ignore the blatantly obvious....it may cause your entire body of work on this ghettolicious project to be called into question.

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I have not seen much evidence of the Brewster being much different than where I have it.  I could shift it towards the line slightly, but I don't think it is EZ mode compared to other, much easier choices in the Turny Birds section.

As for a vet flying it. I don't think it would deviate much either.

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #341 on: August 12, 2011, 09:34:30 AM »
I have not seen much evidence of the Brewster being much different than where I have it.  I could shift it towards the line slightly, but I don't think it is EZ mode compared to other, much easier choices in the Turny Birds section.

As for a vet flying it. I don't think it would deviate much either.

Perhaps I'm presenting it incorrectly and should rephrase it in the form of a jeopardy-style dilemma....What makes it difficult to fly?
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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #342 on: August 12, 2011, 09:35:01 AM »
I bet Nath could make a way better Venn diagram than that.
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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #343 on: August 12, 2011, 09:41:34 AM »
I bet Nath could make a way better Venn diagram than that.

True.  If we had a Venn diagram Best of 5 showdown he would likely win.

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Re: Spixteen perked ?
« Reply #344 on: August 12, 2011, 09:41:48 AM »
All planes in Aces High are EZ mode! We throw out the check list and full start up procedure with pressing E to start  :old:

However every Brewster must be shot down for it's roadkillery and it's pile-it must be kicked in the gondolas!
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