next new air craft?

[Karnak]

save,

Clipped Spit V was later.  The version we have now is appropriate against the Bf109F-4 and gondolas are not really appropriate for the Bf109F-4.


I like your idea on the drones.  Have an arena option for bomber drones fly at cruise settings so you have to choose to fly at cruise or take a single ship and go fast.  I don't think it would be a good setting for the LWA, but for scenarios or the AvA it would be a good thing.

[Butcher]

Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS would be great.

Only Spitfire line addition that I think is really significant would be a Seafire L.Mk III.

Yeah my reason for the AS models is frankly we have very limited bomber interceptors that can handle the job at high Alt. Sure 109k4/G14/d9 can do the job with some speed, however what other options do we have available?

I wouldn't mind cruising around at 25k if there was some more options to intercept buffs, however given the time to intercept climb rate is an issue mainly.
Sure a P47 could do the job for example, but trying to climb to 25k gives the bomber time to run home like most do.

The G.55 comes to mind, not sure what it did around 20-25k though I assume it and the Ki-100 would be interesting at alt (although i am not making claims here just curious)

[skorpion]

Yeah my reason for the AS models is frankly we have very limited bomber interceptors that can handle the job at high Alt. Sure 109k4/G14/d9 can do the job with some speed, however what other options do we have available?

I wouldn't mind cruising around at 25k if there was some more options to intercept buffs, however given the time to intercept climb rate is an issue mainly.
Sure a P47 could do the job for example, but trying to climb to 25k gives the bomber time to run home like most do.

The G.55 comes to mind, not sure what it did around 20-25k though I assume it and the Ki-100 would be interesting at alt (although i am not making claims here just curious)

spit14. that bird has the fourth(?) best climb rate in game i believe.

[Butcher]

spit14. that bird has the fourth(?) best climb rate in game i believe.

Sure i've intercepted a few buffs with it, wish it had 4x20mm however, I'm lucky to nail one or two with a full ammo count.

[skorpion]

Sure i've intercepted a few buffs with it, wish it had 4x20mm however, I'm lucky to nail one or two with a full ammo count.

the spit14 has enough power to take down maybe 3 formations of B17's. you just gotta aim for the wingtips...

[Karnak]

Problem with Spitfires as bomber interceptors is that they are so extremely fragile.  Look at how bad the Spitfire Mk Ia does compared to the Hurricane Mk I in any Battle of Britain scenario, despite the Hurri's pathetic speed.

[Butcher]

Problem with Spitfires as bomber interceptors is that they are so extremely fragile.  Look at how bad the Spitfire Mk Ia does compared to the Hurricane Mk I in any Battle of Britain scenario, despite the Hurri's pathetic speed.

What are the reasons the spitfire did not perform in the FSO? Lack of pilot experience? Hurricane's pathetic speed has nothing to do with pilot experience. The spitfire performed poorly for whatever reason they did, it could of been "poor planning" or "overwhelming numbers" or in real case scenario "poor piloting". One can give a number of reasons for an excuse, in the end the victor comes out - and in the battle of britain the hurricane did win.

[Karnak]

What are the reasons the spitfire did not perform in the FSO? Lack of pilot experience? Hurricane's pathetic speed has nothing to do with pilot experience. The spitfire performed poorly for whatever reason they did, it could of been "poor planning" or "overwhelming numbers" or in real case scenario "poor piloting". One can give a number of reasons for an excuse, in the end the victor comes out - and in the battle of britain the hurricane did win.

Because it is too fragile and Ju88s have too easy a time downing it.

[Tilt]

lets see, we have the spit1,5,8,9,14,16. we have the 109e,f,g2,g6,g14,k4 we have the p47d11,d25,d40,M,N. why cant we have a 6th like the 109 or spit?

A 6th! One of the most common fighter types of WWII is represented by 2 ac (one of which is a comparitive rarity)

More common Yaks .............

Yak1, Yak1b, Yak7b, Yak9D, Yak9T, Yak9DD, Yak3, Yak9M, Yak9U

I would not wish for them all but a more representative spread would be beneficial. Every year we run BOB yet cannot run Barbarossa to the Battle of Moscow or even a proper Stalingrad / Kursk

[Guppy35]

109T flew missions, scored kills, had a larger wing and a different loadout from all the other 109s.

It was the only "short field" 109 and was used as such by JG11 and JG77 because it was the only high performance fighter that could take off from the tiny runways.

Sure, they didn't make many but it's a very different 109 with very different performance that is confirmed to have flown missions and scored more kills than some planes that exist in the game currently.

It was basically a modified 109E That ended up in Norway in the backwater of the war after the notion of a German carrier ended up 'sinking'.  It was not some superior performing bird.

With that kind of talk, we'll have to make the push for my Spitfire XII.  That one did see serious combat

In fact, it's a deal.  You can have the 109T and I get the Spit XII 

[icepac]

It wasn't superior but it's flying characteristics were very different from all other 109 variants and it had superior low speed performance in comparison to them.

That said, I doubt there is any turn data that exists for that variant and it was rare.

[olds442]

Ki-43, at least two versions
P-40, fill out selection (true B, F and maybe the N).
Yak-3, and maybe a another Yak-9 variant
Beaufighter, two versions
Ki-61, redo and add another variant (maybe even Ki-100)
C.202 and C.205, redo and add C.200
B-26B, redo

Also, in no particular order....
Ki-44
Lagg-3 (for 1941 and early war scenarios)
Fiat G55
Pe-2
P-47, add D-10 and give D-11 paddle blade prop (D-11 would become D-10, and D-11 would get revised performance model and wing pylons)
J2M3
He-111 (would get limited use in LWMA, but useful in EWMA)
A-26A

That's enough to keep HTC busy for several years.....

u forgot the HE177

[B-17]

B-17 FREAKING F!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Or E, would be acceptable.

[skorpion]

u forgot the HE177

no.

P47D22 over the HE177 any day.

[Ruah]

I'm just happy when new fighters are added.