Korean War Arena?

[BERN1]

they tried a korean war room in FA and it failed miserably
stick to the game we have

[Rich52]

they tried a korean war room in FA and it failed miserably
stick to the game we have

They "AH" tried a WW1 game and its failed miserably. And you shold have heard the chorus of "WTGs" when they proposed it. The cupeth runneth over full of "purists" who said they would love such an arena. Mobs of Sopwiths were expected to take flight and I was the only doomsayer that said "dont do it". I mean a blindman could see back then that if you cant get these knuckleheads out of their LA-7s, 51Ds, Spixteens, run-90s, into lesser planes or MW/EW arenas then why would you expect them to flock to 1916 when it took 10 mins to get to 10,000'?

So AH builds a very nice arena and nobody ever went into it. Some of the puritans say they wanted a inclusive, all around, WW1 type game like WW2 AH is, "funny but nobody asked for that before them game was launched tho they said they did now". But how inclusive can you make WW1? It was all infantry, paper and wood airplanes, and horses. Even ROF, a far buggier game, isnt all that inclusive. You take off and shoot down the other guy. AH WW1 is a far more stable write then ROF is and still I often see the DA with 25 and WW1 with 0.

A good effort wasted. And why invest more into it when the player base let you down already? I hope they just stick with their bread and butter. WW2 made AH and it was the most dynamic air war in history. Why change a winning formula?

[gyrene81]

Whats wrong? Wikipedia down? Maybe you can recomend a book instead.

keep digging sweetheart. your zero batting average will improve sooner or later.

They "AH" tried a WW1 game and its failed miserably. And you shold have heard the chorus of "WTGs" when they proposed it. The cupeth runneth over full of "purists" who said they would love such an arena. Mobs of Sopwiths were expected to take flight and I was the only doomsayer that said "dont do it". I mean a blindman could see back then that if you cant get these knuckleheads out of their LA-7s, 51Ds, Spixteens, run-90s, into lesser planes or MW/EW arenas then why would you expect them to flock to 1916 when it took 10 mins to get to 10,000'?

So AH builds a very nice arena and nobody ever went into it. Some of the puritans say they wanted a inclusive, all around, WW1 type game like WW2 AH is, "funny but nobody asked for that before them game was launched tho they said they did now". But how inclusive can you make WW1? It was all infantry, paper and wood airplanes, and horses. Even ROF, a far buggier game, isnt all that inclusive. You take off and shoot down the other guy. AH WW1 is a far more stable write then ROF is and still I often see the DA with 25 and WW1 with 0.

A good effort wasted. And why invest more into it when the player base let you down already? I hope they just stick with their bread and butter. WW2 made AH and it was the most dynamic air war in history. Why change a winning formula?

wrong on many levels. the supposed failure of the ww1 arena is that it lacks the elements which make the lw arena popular. high number of aircraft choices, multi dimensional war elements including ground vehicles, multiple bases for each side to attack and defend. people were "expecting" htc to include those elements from the beginning but the only thing they got was dogfighting and with the choices of planes that exists, and the novelty wore off quickly. you obviously were not around when the ww1 arena was opened or your story would be more correct than it is.

[Delirium]

I really enjoyed a Korean based scenario event we had in Airwarrior. It was full realism (based on the AW model) and it is something I won't forget. I came home from a trip early just so I wouldn't miss a frame. Otherwise, the Korean based arena was dead and is similar to the numbers we have in WWI now. Would it be nice? Absolutely, but not worth the time coding imho.

Imho we need the strategic war to be fleshed out first, it would make many happy and increase overall playability in Aces High.

[SmokinLoon]

If someone really wants to feel what a Korean War arena would be like, just get a dozen or so Me262's buzzing around, throw in a mix a few P51D's, F4u-4's, La7's, and maybe a couple of Tempests for the fun of it.  

It wouldnt be much different than that.

Again... I vote no.  HTC has too many things to add and to improve on in the WWII venue for them to branch out just yet, imo.        

[Rich52]

keep digging sweetheart. your zero batting average will improve sooner or later.

wrong on many levels. the supposed failure of the ww1 arena is that it lacks the elements which make the lw arena popular. high number of aircraft choices, multi dimensional war elements including ground vehicles, multiple bases for each side to attack and defend. people were "expecting" htc to include those elements from the beginning but the only thing they got was dogfighting and with the choices of planes that exists, and the novelty wore off quickly. you obviously were not around when the ww1 arena was opened or your story would be more correct than it is.

Obviously I was around. Or I wouldnt be saying what everyone else was posting. And WTF kinda WW-1 ground vehicles would make a WW1 arena more interesting ?

But like I said, the former poseurs of the "pure flight experience" now babble about "the lack of a multidimensional war experience". And continued goose eggs in the arena cant be very motivating for the games decision makers to model more airplanes for it.

Do you got one of those high and tights ? C'mere and let me give you a great big noogie.

[gyrene81]

Obviously I was around. Or I wouldnt be saying what everyone else was posting. And WTF kinda WW-1 ground vehicles would make a WW1 arena more interesting ?

But like I said, the former poseurs of the "pure flight experience" now babble about "the lack of a multidimensional war experience". And continued goose eggs in the arena cant be very motivating for the games decision makers to model more airplanes for it.

Do you got one of those high and tights ? C'mere and let me give you a great big noogie.

words like "poseurs" and "purists" makes me believe you weren't paying attention when the ww1 arena was opened and the reasons for its decline. one need only look at the plane set and the fact that there are 2 aircraft that dominate to see why people have gotten bored with it. had variants of spad, albatros, nieuport, handley paige, etc... been introduced from the outset or at least soon thereafter the resulting lack of population would not have occurred so quickly. and yes, even the afficionados of dogfighting eventually want more to do, hence the need for more bases, tanks (crude as they were), troop trucks, maybe even mannable artillery and useable supply carts complete with mules. every element that brings people to the ww2 late war arena could very well get a dedicated population into the ww1 arena. what is killing the arena is boredom associated with just 2 airplanes that dominate the skies and no war to fight.


yes i do keep my hair cut in a high and tight, though not as stringently as i used to.

[USAF2010]

I absolutely love the Korean War Era aircraft, and dream of the day that HTC creates a Korean arena. I mean, there are certainly quite a few aircraft that can be introduced, and like many of the aircraft in WWII, there were variations of each type as the war raged on. I mean c'mon, who would'nt love running down a MiG-15 or even an La-7 in F-86H (the model that introduced the 4 20mm cannon as opposed to the 6 .50's     

Plus, don't forget the bombers!!! I mean, since we've already added the B-29 to the arenas, there's one easy transfer. Plus, maybe the advent of a Korean arena could bring the A-26 in on some WWII action....  duel war aircraft?? ALLLLL ABOUT THAT     

[skorpion]

I absolutely love the Korean War Era aircraft, and dream of the day that HTC creates a Korean arena. I mean, there are certainly quite a few aircraft that can be introduced, and like many of the aircraft in WWII, there were variations of each type as the war raged on. I mean c'mon, who would'nt love running down a MiG-15 or even an La-7 in F-86H (the model that introduced the 4 20mm cannon as opposed to the 6 .50's     

Plus, don't forget the bombers!!! I mean, since we've already added the B-29 to the arenas, there's one easy transfer. Plus, maybe the advent of a Korean arena could bring the A-26 in on some WWII action....  duel war aircraft?? ALLLLL ABOUT THAT     

p51, p47, b29 ect... were all used in the korean war i believe. but running over a mig-15 with a p51? long shot but possible!