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Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2011, 07:42:04 AM »
How do you improve if you only fight people who are just as bad as you are? You'll all be blundering around making lucky kills without truely understanding.


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How do you improve by playing baby seal to an AH god?
Do boxers just jump right in with top ranked contenders? Or do they first start off with opponents of a similar skill level?

Vy the time you would leave such an arena you would be better then those who are just entering for the first time byvirtue of experience. Its not like you would never learn anything. The learning curve would be much less severe and certainly less frustrating and less of a turnoff starting with those who arent as experienced as it must be by going against people who in some cases have over 10 years of experience.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2011, 11:02:04 AM »
LOL Guess you missed the part where I said the point numbers listed were for example only. But it would also depend on how those points were scored in THAT arena.

(Again EXAMPLE) If each kill were worth 300 points....

We dont know what the average influx of new players is per month. but you wouldnt need hundreds to make it work particularly if they used much smaller maps. a few dozen would be fine



same thing, you are talking about an arena that may have a couple of people at any one time.  we do have a training arena, but most of the people there are players that have been around longer than 2 weeks.

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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2011, 11:37:17 AM »
There is no need for an Aces High "Kiddie Pool."

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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2011, 12:32:47 PM »

Nonsence
How do you improve by playing baby seal to an AH god?
Do boxers just jump right in with top ranked contenders? Or do they first start off with opponents of a similar skill level?

Vy the time you would leave such an arena you would be better then those who are just entering for the first time byvirtue of experience. Its not like you would never learn anything. The learning curve would be much less severe and certainly less frustrating and less of a turnoff starting with those who arent as experienced as it must be by going against people who in some cases have over 10 years of experience.

You don't start against the top contenders no, but you don't start training by grabbing some 13yo off the streets and getting in the ring with him either.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2011, 08:02:36 PM »
You don't start against the top contenders no, but you don't start training by grabbing some 13yo off the streets and getting in the ring with him either.

You do if your 13
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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2011, 03:22:13 AM »
There is no need for an Aces High "Kiddie Pool."

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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2011, 01:14:39 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2011, 01:40:10 PM »
Lol, gotta love the pictures.

You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2011, 02:40:38 PM »

Dred is the only one making any sense in this thread.   :salute

+1 for the idea( more detailed versions of this idea have been posted before)

+1 for Dred's explanation of how newbs fighting Newbs is actually a better way to learn initially than newbs being slaughtered by veterans.

The TA is a place to get trained but doesn't provide the competition, and success that keeps new players interested.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2011, 04:54:04 PM »
OK, it might help him advance from the completely helpless infant that some are when they first start, all the way upto baby seal level. But at the end of the day, when its all said and done.... hes still just a baby seal when he gets to the MA.

Theres only so much that boxing with another 13yo whos just as clueless as you are will do. And without your coach standing next to the ring (which this newb arena would be doing: taking the coach away), showing you what you're doing wrong, you won't ever get to the point where you can compete in a tournament and win.
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Re: Newbie Player Map
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2011, 05:06:22 PM »
How many people coming in with new accounts are actually 100% newbs though?  There'd be people who just come on in 2 week accounts who aren't newbs that would club the real seals in the newbie arena just as effectively as they would in the MA.

Not everybody in the MA is a vet either.  I'm not sure the play in a newbie arena would be all that much different from the MA, plus the numbers would probably be constantly low.  How many new accounts are on at any given time?

It's a nice idea in concept, but even if the people in the newbie arena were all at or near the same skill level, at best all I see it doing is putting off the inevitable 'baby seal' phase when they get into the MA.

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