Chat Suspension: 1 week is too long

[grizz441]

Shhhhh, I hear he can walk on water 

Will Fugitive answer my question?  My guess is no, because it will damage his purely ideological stance on this issue.

[Wiley]

Will Fugitive answer my question?  My guess is no, because it will damage his purely ideological stance on this issue.

7 days, maybe too long, not worth the effort of creating this completely ineffective thread though.  Don't know, don't care.

12th page though... Death is the only appropriate punishment!!!

Wiley.

[dedalos]

7 days, maybe too long, not worth the effort of creating this completely ineffective thread though.  Don't know, don't care.

12th page though... Death is the only appropriate punishment!!!

Wiley.

Yep, the time has come.  Any last words tyger?

[The Fugitive]

Fugi if one got text muted for life for a first offense would that be okay with you since it doesn't affect you? 

If you can at least admit there is a "reasonable punishment" for an infraction then some common ground can be found.  Arguments over ideology without at least attempting to quantify them are pointless.

Yes it would fine, but it does effects me the same as it effects everyone.

The rule is " mind your manners or you get chat suspended for a week/ life". Personally I'd be on my best behavior like I am now. Others like to push the rules. Some take their punishment when caught, other whine and try to get the rules changed.

[grizz441]

Yes it would fine, but it does effects me the same as it effects everyone.

The rule is " mind your manners or you get chat suspended for a week/ life". Personally I'd be on my best behavior like I am now. Others like to push the rules. Some take their punishment when caught, other whine and try to get the rules changed.

Oh wow. 

[grizz441]

You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

See Rule #4

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.

[dedalos]

You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.

 

 Is the search function working yet? 

[Wiley]

 Is the search function working yet? 

Yep.

Wiley.

[dedalos]

Yep.

Wiley.

Yes it does   

[skorpion]

You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.

grizz, who are you to determine idiocy on the BBS? you would have to be an idiot to do so...


 

[The Fugitive]

You weren't on your best behavior when you got this in this thread:

You should be banned for life from the BBS for this based on your ideology.

If that was the rule, yes. But its not.   

Say the speed limit is 65, I know if I'm caught going faster there is a ticket and fine. I also know that around here if your only 5 miles an hour over they will let you slid. After driving over a million miles I have gotten 2 tickets. Have paid the fine without contesting it. Why? Because both times I was guilty of speeding. Did I think the $100 fine was fair, hell no! But I paid it because that's the rule and I was guilty.

I don't see what's so hard to understand.

[grizz441]

If that was the rule, yes. But its not.  

Say the speed limit is 65, I know if I'm caught going faster there is a ticket and fine. I also know that around here if your only 5 miles an hour over they will let you slid. After driving over a million miles I have gotten 2 tickets. Have paid the fine without contesting it. Why? Because both times I was guilty of speeding. Did I think the $100 fine was fair, hell no! But I paid it because that's the rule and I was guilty.

I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does it anywhere specify the punishment for getting muted?  You are assuming the perpetrator has access to the punishments for a crime that he may commit.  I don't see how your speeding example is that same thing, since you know what the fine for speeding is.

That's besides the point though.  Punishment should be a fair reflection of the crime committed.  If they cut off your hands for speeding, sure you wouldn't ever do it, but would it be fair?  Hell no.

[Tyrannis]

Kitty, from the way you speak in MW, Your chat suspension should be alot longer.

[Wiley]

That's besides the point though.  Punishment should be a fair reflection of the crime committed.  If they cut off your hands for speeding, sure you wouldn't ever do it, but would it be fair?  Hell no.

...chat privileges in an online game suspended for (possibly) too long in the offender's opinion.
vs
...permanent maining and disability for speeding.

Grizz, I realize you're trolling/devil's advocating here, but that's a bit excessive, innit?

People showing their backsides on the channels run the risk of getting smacked.  Why is that such a bad thing?

Wiley.

[grizz441]

Grizz, I realize you're trolling/devil's advocating here, but that's a bit excessive, innit?

Not at all.  Fugi is arguing from a purely ideological standpoint, and completely dismissing the relationship a crime and punishment share.  So if he refuses to acknowledge it, I must start at an extreme to show him how ridiculous his ideological stance is.  Once he realizes this, common ground can be established in regards to what a fair punishment actually is.