Plane's Trademark

[Tyrannis]

Speaking of the P38, Werent there some fears of bailing out in one due to the horizontal stabilizer? (Pilots were afraid of hitting it as they bailed out)


I read somewheres that the proper way to bail out of a p38 was to ether roll over, and drop out of it, or climb out and try to jump off the wing.

[nrshida]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq_2UmiCoJk

[2ADoc]

I actually have the Army Air Corps debriefs for the successful bail outs, it is not a big collection.  And yes most of the bailouts were inverted, and also with one engine dead at slow speeds,  once I get them back from my Dad in Dallas I will be happy to scan them and post.  He has them doing some research on something or other.  Along with the original load out chart and weight and balance work up for, I can't remember what model, but they are interesting.

[olds442]

squeakers, annoying and really shouldnt be talking.


if you want your HE-177 so bad dont use the guns on a JU-88 and only use 1 engine. you got your HE-177.

LOL HE177 has cannons.... and has 13mm mgs , plus HE177 is a 4 engined plane (wacthing you figure that out will be funny has heck!)

armerment for the the HE177

Armament :
 3* MG 81 7,92mm, 3* MG 131 13mm, 2* MG 151 20mm, 1000kg Bomb. int., 2* HS293 Missl. ext.
 

JU88

is.. 5  7.9mm guns.....


so how dose this = the HE177 please tell me.

[skorpion]

LOL HE177 has cannons.... and has 13mm mgs , plus HE177 is a 4 engined plane (wacthing you figure that out will be funny has heck!)

armerment for the the HE177

Armament :
 3* MG 81 7,92mm, 3* MG 131 13mm, 2* MG 151 20mm, 1000kg Bomb. int., 2* HS293 Missl. ext.
 

JU88

is.. 5  7.9mm guns.....


so how dose this = the HE177 please tell me.

the HE-177 had so many design flaws it wasnt even funny. the engines would cut out mid-flight, the controls didnt always respond and it was shot down by a few .303's

[Karnak]

the HE-177 had so many design flaws it wasnt even funny. the engines would cut out mid-flight, the controls didnt always respond and it was shot down by a few .303's

Not really true.  When it worked it wasn't bad.  It did have the lowest loss rate of German bombers during the mini-Blitz.

[Babalonian]

To anyone having any trouble with fighting 190 bounce while landing: besides trying to bring her down gently, begin retracting flaps imediatley before touching down and continue retracting fully after your wheels have touched down or until you feel your plane is now firmly on the ground. 

[Puma44]

To anyone having any trouble with fighting 190 bounce while landing: besides trying to bring her down gently, begin retracting flaps imediatley before touching down and continue retracting fully after your wheels have touched down or until you feel your plane is now firmly on the ground.  

.....or fly final at a realistically appropriate speed, land with power at idle, hold full aft stick after touchdown and there won't be any bounce to deal with.  If your plane is "firmly" on the ground, then it can't bounce and it's not necessary to retract flaps to prevent a bounce.   

[Babalonian]

.....or fly final at realistically appropriate speed, land with power at idle, hold full aft stick after touchdown and there won't be any bounce to deal with.   

As I keep telling my squadies who complain that they can never land a plane with gear-up - it's LESS than 200mph, LESS.

Besides, with most 190 sticks, slow anything (in this case - landing aproaches at ~100 mph) is just not meant to compute.

[Dichotomy]

Cripes I'm a godawful pilot and I can land a 190 fairly easily. 

[cactuskooler]

There's a whole plethora of methods to bail out of a 38.

[titanic3]

 

I also gotta say that this thread (despite the first few pages of "landing procedures") is quite informative. 

[Puma44]

As I keep telling my squadies who complain that they can never land a plane with gear-up - it's LESS than 200mph, LESS.

Besides, with most 190 sticks, slow anything (in this case - landing aproaches at ~100 mph) is just not meant to compute.

Yeah, good point.  You do have to come out of warp speed to land. 

[perdue3]

P-51s have a tendency to go very fast in one direction with a plane behind them.

[Tyrannis]

P-51s have a tendency to go very fast in one direction with a plane behind them.

same can be said for run-oh-nines and run-ninetys