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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 10:44:41 PM »
Quote from: skorpion on October 03, 2011, 10:33:13 PM
"double D guarantee i was checkin their size...." and no its not the women jugs, the D22 jugs you pervs! :x :x

I would love to see the D-22, 28, or 30 on AH. 
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 10:49:03 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on October 03, 2011, 10:44:41 PM
I would love to see the D-22, 28, or 30 on AH. 
i think a D30 would be a great tank killer, and, it might piss off bar when hes putting around in the M-18.

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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 11:19:16 PM »
Quote from: skorpion on October 03, 2011, 10:49:03 PM
i think a D30 would be a great tank killer, and, it might piss off bar when hes putting around in the M-18.

:neener:

I have many ppl to piss off with it.  Bar is on my side. 
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2011, 01:07:43 AM »
Tank Destroyer... then we can have the SU-100 already too?  :rock
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2011, 06:58:43 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on October 03, 2011, 11:19:16 PM
I have many ppl to piss off with it.  Bar is on my side. 
darn...someone must carry out the dark deed somehow! :lol
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2011, 08:08:39 AM »
Quote from: Vadjan-Sama on October 04, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
Tank Destroyer... then we can have the SU-100 already too?  :rock

I'm torn between the Su-100 and the StuG III G as to which, at least imo, should be AH's first turret-less AFV.  If HTC (and a volunteer or 2) spend all the countless man hours developing a turret-less AFV and once it is introduced in to AH it quickly becomes a hanger queen due to the extra challenges it offers, hindsight will say to go with the StuG III because over 9700 were made, it saw major action in the ETO's western front, Ost front, MTO, and North Africa.  But, the Su-100 would be a good fit as well seeing the direction HTC has gone lately with tanks (bigger and more powerful).  The Su-100 would be a wee bit quicker off the assembly line too, the T34x is already in game.   
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2011, 08:40:38 AM »
Quote from: AKKuya on October 03, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
Looks like he appreciates the new vehicle and his fellow Aces High comrades.



Or, I could be be misreading his use of pictures and words.
youre misreading it :lol i just quickly said that because i had no time to write anything else and it seemed to fit ok to what i meant
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2011, 08:41:16 AM »
Quote from: jay on October 03, 2011, 10:32:06 PM
one question,is the M18 built on the chaffee chassis???
no. the chaffee is smaller (and iirc came after the M18?)
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2011, 09:12:59 AM »
I got a question for you GV guys....


why would they call this a "Tank Destroyer"   not just this particular one, but all the "tank destroyers" are they not usually less armored, I know this one is.....I am just curious.

seems silly to call something a "Tank destroyer" when a Tank can easily kill. :headscratch:
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2011, 09:28:46 AM »
Quote from: ink on October 04, 2011, 09:12:59 AM
I got a question for you GV guys....


why would they call this a "Tank Destroyer"   not just this particular one, but all the "tank destroyers" are they not usually less armored, I know this one is.....I am just curious.

seems silly to call something a "Tank destroyer" when a Tank can easily kill. :headscratch:
a Tank Destroyer is an armored vehicle dedicated for the destruction of other armored vehicles specifically tanks. A tank destroyer does not need to be lightly armored but only dedicated in the role of tank killing. The reason the M-18 is lightly armored is so it can maneuver quickly to the flanks of heavier German armor. while German TDs we're just heavily armored with heavy AT guns. but still they were dedicated to kill armor <S>
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2011, 09:35:14 AM »
wouldn't that just make it another Tank?

whats the differences between  TD and A Tank......


wait you already gave me that answer "Tank Destroyer is an armored vehicle dedicated for the destruction of other armored vehicles specifically tanks"

whereas a tank was designed to kill whatever got in its way.....


always wondered about that

what are the differences?

seems like they are just Tanks made to kill Tanks.
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2011, 10:08:20 AM »
Quote from: ink on October 04, 2011, 09:35:14 AM
wouldn't that just make it another Tank?


Not quite.  At least, not back then.

Typically, a tank destroyer had what amounted to the next-size-larger cannon than its corresponding "tank" version.  Because of the added weight of the bigger gun and its components, something had to give.  In this, American tank destroyer doctrine was the opposite of Russian and German doctrine.  The Russian and German tank destroyers eliminated their turrets and added frontal armor so that they could slug it out toe to toe with enemy tanks.  The Americans dumped as much armor as possible on the hope that the resulting hot rod tank destroyer could run rings around enemy tanks.  There were good arguments on both sides, but in practice it was probably safer to be in one of the German or Russian vehicles than in something like an M10 or M18, at least if you were in the Ardennes or a town.

I had a professor in college who was a lieutenant in a tank destroyer company.  Towards the end of the war his unit was reequipped with M18s.  He told me he was happy that he never was in one of those during a fire fight.

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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2011, 10:29:15 AM »
Quote from: Oldman731 on October 04, 2011, 10:08:20 AM

Not quite.  At least, not back then.

Typically, a tank destroyer had what amounted to the next-size-larger cannon than its corresponding "tank" version.  Because of the added weight of the bigger gun and its components, something had to give.  In this, American tank destroyer doctrine was the opposite of Russian and German doctrine.  The Russian and German tank destroyers eliminated their turrets and added frontal armor so that they could slug it out toe to toe with enemy tanks.  The Americans dumped as much armor as possible on the hope that the resulting hot rod tank destroyer could run rings around enemy tanks.  There were good arguments on both sides, but in practice it was probably safer to be in one of the German or Russian vehicles than in something like an M10 or M18, at least if you were in the Ardennes or a town.

I had a professor in college who was a lieutenant in a tank destroyer company.  Towards the end of the war his unit was reequipped with M18s.  He told me he was happy that he never was in one of those during a fire fight.

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thanx

I still wont get in one :lol
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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2011, 10:31:53 AM »
An M8 with a sun roof and a decent gun  :old: AP rounds only I suppose which is a shame if you come up against another Hellcat  ;)   

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Re: M-18 Hellcat
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2011, 11:22:04 AM »
Im not a GV'er but the M18 looks great.  I look forward to it.
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