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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #345 on: March 18, 2013, 12:19:52 PM »
I see very little return of invest in the Dewoitine.

As far as the arenas go, the cannon's short clip alone will keep it very very rare there. I don't see much scenario/special event potential either largely for the same reason and due to the fact that Hawk75A was more important fighter for the French during BoF and would require less resources to add due to the fact that much of the 3d art work is done with the P-40C. Then there's the Syria-Lebanon campaign and operation Torch. Somehow, I don't see anyone doing the former but who knows, the problem is that even with the Dewoitine in the game a lot of the aircraft participating would have to be subbed. As far as the Torch goes, if we want some unpopular axis-seats for that FSO/Scenario I guess that's a good reason to add it. :) Eastern front events easily do without it.

I understand if the French AH fliers want the best French built fighter of the war but as I said, I see the return for the invest very poor.
They could always give it the brewster treatment.
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #346 on: March 18, 2013, 12:26:49 PM »
I'd love to fly this and distribute hispano powered french kisses with it but, if I had to choose something french added to the game I'd probably go with a late WWI SPAD.

That said the roll rate of a 190A combined with the turns of a spifire and such looks makes me drool :P

Note that IMO a center line 60rpg cannon is a superior armament that 2 wing cannons with 60rpg like the spitV...but I should comparing with the spit mk1 and then there is no contest.
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #347 on: March 18, 2013, 01:14:46 PM »
In one of Meglodon's posts of translated stuff the French pilot said the D.520 had an 80 round magazine for its cannon which he liked compared to the 60 round magazines in the MS.406.

Was he mistaken?
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #348 on: March 18, 2013, 02:26:46 PM »
They could always give it the brewster treatment.

And what treatment would that be? 

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #349 on: March 18, 2013, 04:26:03 PM »
I see very little return of invest in the Dewoitine.

As far as the arenas go, the cannon's short clip alone will keep it very very rare there. I don't see much scenario/special event potential either largely for the same reason and due to the fact that Hawk75A was more important fighter for the French during BoF and would require less resources to add due to the fact that much of the 3d art work is done with the P-40C. Then there's the Syria-Lebanon campaign and operation Torch. Somehow, I don't see anyone doing the former but who knows, the problem is that even with the Dewoitine in the game a lot of the aircraft participating would have to be subbed. As far as the Torch goes, if we want some unpopular axis-seats for that FSO/Scenario I guess that's a good reason to add it. :) Eastern front events easily do without it.

I understand if the French AH fliers want the best French built fighter of the war but as I said, I see the return for the invest very poor.


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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #350 on: March 19, 2013, 01:57:22 PM »
In one of Meglodon's posts of translated stuff the French pilot said the D.520 had an 80 round magazine for its cannon which he liked compared to the 60 round magazines in the MS.406.

Was he mistaken?

I don't know, all I've read before was that the drum magazine had a fixed capacity of 60 rounds, and that amount did not increase until a belt fed system was introduced.

EDIT: I'm saving megalodon's link, and I will read it later on
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« Last Edit: April 05, 2013, 12:49:18 PM by Megalodon »
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #352 on: April 05, 2013, 02:26:38 PM »
very nice  :cheers:
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #353 on: May 10, 2013, 12:40:03 PM »


« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 01:05:35 PM by Megalodon »
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #354 on: May 10, 2013, 01:05:58 PM »
EDIT: I'm saving megalodon's link, and I will read it later on

Pretty sure that is what it says  :)... But you may translate it for us more eloquently ... ;) I believe it also say the D-520 would flame the 109 <maybe that was the german guy>  :aok

"Un jeune officier pilote du GC III/6 raconte sa prise de contact avec le D.520

A la mi-juin le GC III/6 qui était au Luc depuis le début du mois échangea enfin ses Morane Saulnier MS 406 contre les Dewoitine D.520 tant attendus. Dès que le premier détachement, dont Jacobi, chef d’escadrille de la 5ème, et Le Gloan, fut rentré, nous partîmes à notre tour vers Toulouse. Nous nous posâmes le 15 juin à Francazal où nous abandonnâmes sans regret nos vieux Morane. On nous conduisit en car à Blagnac où nous prîmes contact avec le Dewoitine 520.

Celui qu'on me donna portait le N° 358. C'était un avion magnifique, entièrement métallique, équipé d'un moteur Hispano-Suiza de 12 cylindres en V d'une puissance supérieure à celle du Morane, de l'ordre de 920 CV. Pour compenser le couple de renversement (1) le moteur était décalé de 1°30' et la dérive avait un profil d'aile produisant une compensation en fonction de la vitesse.

Il était armé d'un canon Hispano de 20 mm tirant dans l'axe de l'hélice, comme le 406, mais avec un chargeur de 80 obus explosifs au lieu de 60, et de 4 mitrailleuses, à raison de 2 dans chaque aile, avec un chargeur à bande de 700 cartouches par arme au lieu de 350. Celles-ci étaient réchauffées. On avait donc 6 secondes de tir continu avec le canon (800 coups/min) et 35 secondes avec les mitrailleuses, ce qui était nettement mieux que le 406.

Le train d'atterrissage était verrouillé mécaniquement en position « rentré » donc sans problème en cas de balle venant de loger dans le circuit hydraulique. C'était un avion rapide, crédité d'une vitesse de 550 km/h à l'altitude de rétablissement (3), très fin à piloter, qui déclanchait (2) assez facilement, qui virait bien et qui avait des réactions très saines. Il pouvait faire quasiment jeu égal avec le Me 109. Si nous l'avions eu au début de la guerre, les choses se seraient certainement passées autrement.

Détail amusant. Le D.520 était équipé d'une valise qui prenait place dans le fuselage derrière le pilote. Elle avait un volume intéressant et elle se révéla bien pratique lors de nos déplacements en nous permettant d'emmener avec nous pas mal d’effets personnels.

Lors de la prise en main de mon nouvel appareil, je fus surpris par la sensibilité du gouvernail de direction et je serpentais un peu au décollage, mais je m'y fis très vite. Après quelques minutes de vol je revins me poser à Francazal que nous quittâmes en patrouille le lendemain pour rejoindre le Luc. Dès l'atterrissage, on nous raconta ce qui s'était passé la veille pendant notre absence et comment Le Gloan et Assollant avaient pu abattre 5 avions italiens en moins de 45 minutes...

Extraits des mémoires du colonel Jean Menneglier, lieutenant pilote à la 6ème escadrille du GC III/6 en 1940
Merci à son fils Philippe de nous avoir transmis ce récit"

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #355 on: May 10, 2013, 01:44:14 PM »





GC II/1 D520 #523


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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #356 on: June 01, 2013, 04:51:30 PM »
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #357 on: June 01, 2013, 10:06:10 PM »
HTC ADD IT!! and the boomerang!!

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #358 on: June 02, 2013, 01:32:04 PM »
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #359 on: June 02, 2013, 01:40:45 PM »
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« Last Edit: June 02, 2013, 02:35:56 PM by Megalodon »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520