That's Right... Just pass the Cheese over...

[DMVIAGRA]

+1 to give advantage to the Thunderbolt's!

[leitwolf]

I am pretty sure that is not the case. You perk the La-7 at a beginning value between three and five and folks will still fly it, just not so many. It's that perk plane mystique.  "Wow that's perked, I'll fly an alternate." The value floats with ENY. The Pony "D" can defend for sure. But the La-7 deserves the respect of a perk value. For the simple drawback of range, the La-7 is shelved as one greatest planes ever in this game. Check the statistics this month, the numbers don't lie. Too many maintenance and logistics problems in historical terms to get it anywhere close to that honor. But when it worked it really worked...

Well, we're going in circles here. 
Following your own argument, the "statistics card", the first plane to be perked on that account would be the D-Pony. Look at Lusche's chart, no other plane comes close. You cannot make this argument without going through the 51D first.

Ok maybe you want performance to be a criteria not usage. The La7 is good at low alts no doubt about that. But why draw the line at the La7 only? What does it make worthy of perking but not the 109K4?

My point is that "i don't like it" is not a good enough reason to needlessly trespass on the diversity of planes in the game. Perking (even if done mildly) axes its usage (see: F4U1C). So what trait makes the Lala stick out? Where is the bar and what are the objective criteria?

[swareiam]

Well, we're going in circles here.  
Following your own argument, the "statistics card", the first plane to be perked on that account would be the D-Pony. Look at Lusche's chart, no other plane comes close. You cannot make this argument without going through the 51D first.

Ok maybe you want performance to be a criteria not usage. The La7 is good at low alts no doubt about that. But why draw the line at the La7 only? What does it make worthy of perking but not the 109K4?

My point is that "i don't like it" is not a good enough reason to needlessly trespass on the diversity of planes in the game. Perking (even if done mildly) axes its usage (see: F4U1C). So what trait makes the Lala stick out? Where is the bar and what are the objective criteria?

Well that is the whole point. "This thread is not about a popularity contest." We're not going around in circles, you're failing to see the real point. This thread didn't start off taking about the Pony "D". Someone else brought it up in a side bar conversation. So, whether HT should reevaluate every hot LW ride is really not my concern. I am talking about one based on it's closest peer group, perked and unperked. Besides, why would you perk the K-4 when maybe 8 to 9 percent of the players really know how to fly it. That's like perking the Spit XIV.   The Germans during the war didn't fly it as creatively as some of these guys. You not liking it is great! That is what diversity is all about, difference in opinions, values, cultures and general understanding of the same subjects. What I do fail to see is any mention of the point of La-7s defending against current carrier borne aircraft other than the PERKED 4-Hog... The only leviathan that cometh from the sea. Flying an La-7 is fairly close, or at least in the same yard as Spit XVI. The relative ease of use, speed, and maneuverability are different but close. The low speed handling characterizes of the La-7 and firepower make it a terror that deserves the respect of a perk.

Final point, one does not capture a base from 10k and above. So eliminating all of the other circumstances and factors that were previously mentioned...

"Perk it!"

[Ack-Ack]

All this talk about perking the La7 and yet no one yet has been able to give any proof how the La7 unbalances the game play unperked.  I've been waiting for years and years for this bit of information and so far no one has been able to provide any.


ack-ack

[Shane]

All this talk about perking the La7 and yet no one yet has been able to give any proof how the La7 unbalances the game play unperked.  I've been waiting for years and years for this bit of information and so far no one has been able to provide any.


ack-ack

it denies them their greatness.   

[Tank-Ace]

All,

I know that you have heard this whine before. So, keep your shirt or skirt on and let me speak my piece. The La-7 should undoubtedly be perked. The only reason I didn't add this to a previous thread is because I didn't look a hard enough to find one. If the La-7 can out fly and out gun the Spitfire XIV, perk the La-7 or unperk the Spit XIV. We are talking about usual everyday LW MA flying as well. The La-7s short service record was clearly due to its unreliable engine and other general unservicability. Yet, it is one of the most powerful planes in the game. Not to mention its current popularity amongst players. How popular you ask, well let's see;

Plane Name      Kills        Deaths     Kill/Death Ratio
Spitfire Mk XVI 2389     2252       1.06
La-7               3027     2215       1.37

Wow, as popular as or more than a Spit XVI  . Okay, let's take two popular perk rides and see how their doing this month;

Plane Name      Kills        Deaths     Kill/Death Ratio
F4U-4             521       183        2.83
Tempest          454       74         6.05

Keeping in mind the units above made a more substantial contibution to winning the war for the allies, which the La-7 did not. How is the Spitfire XIV doing this month;

Plane Name      Kills        Deaths     Kill/Death Ratio
Spitfire Mk XIV  130       128        1.01

Especially seeing that the Spit XIV was a V1 chaser and not really a dogfighter like the VIII and IX. I digress, with the La-7s currently rated performance and statistics in the MA, it should be perked. If it is not to be perked, then the Spitfire XIV should loose its perk and be given to the Spitfire XVI. "Wonder planes should have a wonderful little perk on them". Closing comments; perk a plane that really deserves the respect of a perk. "Perk the La-7"...

This has been a public service announcement....

My bottle of Merlot is now empty. 

 

Are you aware that, based on what you are saying, basicly every 109 and 190 should be perked? So should the P-38, the The F4U-1, the C205, and others? Any one of them will out fly a Spit 14. Hell, I've outflown a Spit 14 with a P-40E. Guess it needs a perk price attached  .


Spit 14 is perked because we would (probably) see a ton of them, due to the stellar rate of climb, improved speed and acceleration, and high altitude preformance. That being said, I would love to see this, since spit 14's make for some easy meat.