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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2011, 10:05:57 PM »
I'm of mixed feeling about that.  I believe that there are some wrecks that should be left where they found them and preserved in their state as a memorial instead of recovering the craft for restoration.

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Got an example AKAK?  My thing is that they all just rot away in the end.  No one is preserving them out in New Guinea for example.  I'm trying to think of any that would fit what you are describing and can't come up with any.  not saying there aren't any.  Just not coming to me right now
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2011, 10:33:08 PM »
The B29 in lake mead
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2011, 06:12:49 PM »
Yep -- leave them, and they just dissolve over time, leaving next to nothing.  What's the point if instead they could be restored for history?

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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2011, 11:23:11 PM »
Some more out of Russia.

Hurri II
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/hurricane_Z5252/index.htm

The P39Q now in New York
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p39/index.htm

P40C and P40E.  I think the P40C is the one that Paul Allen has now.  There is a Russian recovered P40K being restored here in Minnesota
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p40recovery/index.htm
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2011, 11:25:26 PM »
Some more out of Russia.

Hurri II
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/hurricane_Z5252/index.htm

The P39Q now in New York
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p39/index.htm

P40C and P40E.  I think the P40C is the one that Paul Allen has now.  There is a Russian recovered P40K being restored here in Minnesota
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p40recovery/index.htm
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2011, 11:28:52 PM »
Some more out of Russia.

Hurri II
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/hurricane_Z5252/index.htm

The P39Q now in New York
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p39/index.htm

P40C and P40E.  I think the P40C is the one that Paul Allen has now.  There is a Russian recovered P40K being restored here in Minnesota
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p40recovery/index.htm
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2011, 08:56:22 AM »
Three times as nice!    :rofl
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2011, 05:16:19 PM »
     Someone kick Dan, looks like he's stuck  :D
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2011, 05:54:45 PM »
You guys might be interested in this group.

http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/

Or these guys.

http://www.aircraftarchaeology.com/

Here's the story of a B-17 that went down in the Porcupine Mountains in Michigan's U.P.

http://www.porcupinemountainsb-17.com/index.php?p=1_5_Crash-Site-1944

I've heard some eyewitness testimony from some in-laws (both engineers and very believable) of another crash about 30 miles East of Ontonagon. I haven't been able to dig up any information in the last 6 months. I also haven't been able to contact the one person that everyone directs me to, a local historian of sorts, by the name of Bruce Johanson. They said that this one was a jet and that it occurred in the mid 70's.

Any info or tips to expanding my search would be appreciated.

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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2011, 06:26:06 PM »
I bet there are hundreds of planes yet to be found. They pulled a Fw-190 out of a swamp in Russia last year. A Panther tank the year before. Within the last 12 months they found a Grumman F4F in Lake Michigan. If I had tens of millions this would be a hobby.

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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2011, 11:42:50 PM »
I bet there are hundreds of planes yet to be found. They pulled a Fw-190 out of a swamp in Russia last year. A Panther tank the year before. Within the last 12 months they found a Grumman F4F in Lake Michigan. If I had tens of millions this would be a hobby.

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All the Lake Michigan birds are documented.  They've brought many of them up including a really early bird cage Corsair, a Midway vet SBD and a Vindicator..  They got a -3 Hellcat recently too along with all those Wildcats.
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Re: Discovered Airplanes?
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2011, 10:08:45 PM »
All the Lake Michigan birds are documented.  They've brought many of them up including a really early bird cage Corsair, a Midway vet SBD and a Vindicator..  They got a -3 Hellcat recently too along with all those Wildcats.

Indeed.   One of the better examples would be SBD-3 BuNo. 06624.  This one was just one of several that were lost during training in the Great Lakes aboard the paddlewheel carriers Wolverine and Sable.  It went in on September 19, 1943 when the pilot trainee accidentally switched to a dry fuel tank, lost power on landing, boltered and went over the side into Lake Michigan.  IIRC, it was recovered in the early 1990s, and placed on loan to the Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum (AirZoo) for restoration by the National Museum of Naval Aviation.  It served with the VS-41 “Tophatters” aboard the USS Ranger (CV-4) and had flown bombing missions in support of the Operation Torch landings in Algeria. 
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