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Offline clerick

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Rendering issue
« on: October 30, 2011, 12:33:18 AM »
I have this issue, as seen on the map room, often. I don't know what it's called but it affects a number of objects in AHII, I also get a situation often where edges will seem jagged and moving at a distance.


I know my system RAM is very low and that'll be addressed soon. My frame rate is pretty decent with moderate eye candy I just have a few weird things like the picture.

DXDIAG
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
       System Model: BM412AA-ABA CQ5600Y
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II 170u Processor, ~2.0GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 1907MB used, 3208MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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        DDI Version: 11
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 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 11:01:23 AM »
what's your paging file size after a fresh boot with anti-virus disabled? and 2048mb of ram is just enough to run win7, if your paging file is 1907mb then you're system is running out of resources before you even start the game.
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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 01:49:56 PM »
I see that sometimes as well and I have plenty of RAM.
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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 03:21:55 PM »
The 5500 graphics card line is a very low end one and there are reported problems with drivers relating to it. I would try updating or rolling back drivers, new ones are not necessarily the best choice for the lower budget cards. So best to try different revisions out first, if you're comfortable with cleaning and installing drivers that is.
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Offline clerick

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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 06:36:52 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on October 30, 2011, 11:01:23 AM
what's your paging file size after a fresh boot with anti-virus disabled? and 2048mb of ram is just enough to run win7, if your paging file is 1907mb then you're system is running out of resources before you even start the game.

It is, for some reason, set to manual with a minimum of 3 to a max of 7.
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 07:21:49 PM »
Quote from: clerick on October 30, 2011, 06:36:52 PM
It is, for some reason, set to manual with a minimum of 3 to a max of 7.
no, what i'm talking about is the amount of memory being used by programs/processes after a fresh boot, that is the first number on the paging file line.

Page File: 1907MB used, 3208MB available

shut the system down, the power it back up, once windows has finished the full boot process disable your anti-virus then open the task manager and check the memory usage under the performance tab...



you might want to try ripley's advice too...
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on October 30, 2011, 03:21:55 PM
The 5500 graphics card line is a very low end one and there are reported problems with drivers relating to it. I would try updating or rolling back drivers, new ones are not necessarily the best choice for the lower budget cards. So best to try different revisions out first, if you're comfortable with cleaning and installing drivers that is.



Quote from: 715 on October 30, 2011, 01:49:56 PM
I see that sometimes as well and I have plenty of RAM.
post a dxdiag after you do a fresh boot...it could be your video card.
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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 10:53:48 PM »
Clerick it might help also if you turned off all of the Windows visual effects. You can do this in Control Panel under System - Advanced System Settings - Advanced Tab - under Performance click Settings - Visual Effects tab - Select Adjust for best performance.
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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2011, 01:44:02 AM »
Quote from: Chalenge on October 30, 2011, 10:53:48 PM
Clerick it might help also if you turned off all of the Windows visual effects. You can do this in Control Panel under System - Advanced System Settings - Advanced Tab - under Performance click Settings - Visual Effects tab - Select Adjust for best performance.

I have a "booster" program that handles all of the process killing etc before I play.  Without that it would be impossible.  I haven't had a chance to run the other tests that were mentioned yet.

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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 05:51:41 AM »
ok. I'm posting 2, count them, 2 DXDIAG's.

First, reboot, AV turned off as much as I know how.

Time of this report: 10/31/2011, 05:39:48
       Machine name: HORNET
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
       System Model: BM412AA-ABA CQ5600Y
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II 170u Processor, ~2.0GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 1302MB used, 2790MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

Second, reboot, AV off AND Game booster... boosting...
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
       System Model: BM412AA-ABA CQ5600Y
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II 170u Processor, ~2.0GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 1175MB used, 2917MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 08:38:50 AM »
ok clerick that tells me you need to stop a lot of unnecessary processes, the standard configuration is eating up 50%+ of your available memory. and your game booster program isn't doing a thing for you. start up memory usage shouldn't be any higher than ~850mb.

i'm not going to repost all the processes you can disable because there are several posts with big lists between the hardware/software and tech support sections of the forums. to start with, put at least 2gb more ram in that system then, set the windows automatic update process to disabled or manual, turn off the windows aero interface, then find other discussions where people have been given lists of processes to disable in windows 7.
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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 12:32:03 PM »
Quote from: clerick on October 31, 2011, 01:44:02 AM
I have a "booster" program that handles all of the process killing etc before I play.  Without that it would be impossible.  I haven't had a chance to run the other tests that were mentioned yet.

I dont think thats a process. I also dont think that even AlacrityPC could be much help with your limited memory but what your using isnt doint anything for you.

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Re: Rendering issue
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 03:29:39 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on October 31, 2011, 08:38:50 AM
i'm not going to repost all the processes you can disable because there are several posts with big lists between the hardware/software and tech support sections of the forums. to start with, put at least 2gb more ram in that system then, set the windows automatic update process to disabled or manual, turn off the windows aero interface, then find other discussions where people have been given lists of processes to disable in windows 7.

I know I need the RAM, just hasn't affected playability so I haven't made it a huge priority.

As for everything else, processes, auto-update, aero etc... Done and done a long time ago.

My main reason for posting this was to try and find out if it was a lack of resources issue or a harbinger of doom for some piece of hardware.  The latter is bad, the former I can live with, for now :D

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