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Offline ZetaNine

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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 11:05:02 AM »
The whole Don't Ho thing here makes me giggle like a school girl.

if you go out of your way to come at me co-alt...nose to nose...that...is an aggressive posture...........and I will ho every time.

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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 12:25:46 PM »
and HO'ing a P-47 is like running head on , into a mack truck , with a Volkswagen!
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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 02:07:40 PM »
The whole Don't Ho thing here makes me giggle like a school girl.

if you go out of your way to come at me co-alt...nose to nose...that...is an aggressive posture...........and I will ho every time.
lolz  its a joke isnt it?
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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 02:11:11 PM »
The whole Don't Ho thing here makes me giggle like a school girl.

if you go out of your way to come at me co-alt...nose to nose...that...is an aggressive posture...........and I will ho every time.

So you'd rather take an option that at best has about a 50/50 chance of success than maneuver out of the way and try to get a shot that doesn't give you're opponent a chance at firing back?


The whole HO-ing thing doesn't really bother me, I just can't understand why people don't try to improve their odds a little.
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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2011, 02:18:42 PM »
Soulyss,
in a ho shot, usually both planes get damaged. So even if you win, theres a big chance (like 80%) that you get critical damage: engine out or at least oiled, radiator leak or pw, making you very vulnerable.
Following this logic, in an equal situation ho, you got 50+50*0.8=90% chance to die or take critical damage, what means death (sooner or later). Considering theres only 50% of a chance to get a kill, the odds are real bad...
Go HO-queens, go  : D
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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2011, 05:28:21 PM »
So you'd rather take an option that at best has about a 50/50 chance of success than maneuver out of the way and try to get a shot that doesn't give you're opponent a chance at firing back?


The whole HO-ing thing doesn't really bother me, I just can't understand why people don't try to improve their odds a little.



my first year here all I cared about what points and perks.
now it's all about fun.  I love 50/50 odds

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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2011, 10:01:53 PM »
Soulyss,
in a ho shot, usually both planes get damaged. So even if you win, theres a big chance (like 80%) that you get critical damage: engine out or at least oiled, radiator leak or pw, making you very vulnerable.
Following this logic, in an equal situation ho, you got 50+50*0.8=90% chance to die or take critical damage, what means death (sooner or later). Considering theres only 50% of a chance to get a kill, the odds are real bad...
Go HO-queens, go  : D
Been reading about game theory, and I think it can explain this nicely.

If we set-up a basic pay-off matrix for this situation, it would look like this:

                  Noob-average opponent           Expert
Manuver:                    +1                           -2
HO:                            0                              0


I think the reason most people HO is that they aren't confident in their ability to outmanuver their opponent for whatever reason, be it lack of skill, disadvantaged, inferior aircraft, whatever it may be.

Where if they manuver, if they win, they only benefit in the imediate term, since they still remain airborn in a hostile enviornment. And if they lose, they get -2 because not only are they dead, but they didn't do any harm to their opponent. But if they HO, they're (basicly) guaranteed to break even.

For whatever reason, they decide that the reward isn't worth the risk, and take the guaranteed 0 over the possiblity of a +1.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2011, 03:42:56 AM »
Btw.
the thread title says "how to fly a p47". Yet here comes a ho-queen and keeps telling us why its so awsome to always ho. I got my opinion about you...
Yet not a single word about how/when to hammerhead, how to taliwhip, do any ACM, be smarter than your opponent and beat the crap outta him...
If all you know about the p47 that its the best hoer in game, then youre low, brother, from the worst kind, without any hope.

Lepape, LilMak, Juggler all real decent P-47 sticks, if you want to learn anything, ask them. If im unwary, they make my 109 look like a fool in no time.
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Re: How to fly a P47
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Re: How to fly a P47
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2011, 04:07:24 PM »
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