Looking up parts for graphic design build

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Just curious as to why prices have been exploding for hard drives?

Flooding in Asia and China manipulating rare-earth production to ramp up the price.

[715]

If it's for CS5 and graphic design is important wouldn't they want accurate color and don't accurate color LCDs cost $500 by themselves?  I know I replaced my old CRT with a very highly rated LCD (Asus VW246) and I was shocked at how inaccurate the color was: no matter how I adjusted the monitor or software it couldn't create accurate color.  For example it just won't do a good red- it's always orange/red.  When I checked into accurate color P-IPS panel displays they were about $500 (like the ASUS PA246Q).

[RTHolmes]

I use a HP zr22w IPS 22" (about $250), colours pretty good and its just about usable for AH.

[Chalenge]

You do not have to be rude

Im not being rude. Im pointing out that putting that PSU with the equipment you add to it will result in a loss of the other equipment. Dont be one of the people that puts a piece of junk PSU on a system. Its one of the most important components you put into a system.

@715: If you found a true color LCD for $500 please tell me what it is.

[gyrene81]

@715: If you found a true color LCD for $500 please tell me what it is.

  i think he pointed out one example...

When I checked into accurate color P-IPS panel displays they were about $500 (like the ASUS PA246Q).

[Chalenge]

Which I know is NOT good for true color unfortunately. I am not working in the advertising industry but I understand that if you do art for print the only monitor currently manufactured that is capable of true color is the Sony 21". I would love to find out that isnt true.

[gyrene81]

how about one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-VP2365-LED-23-Inch-Monitor-Black/dp/B0053YKE72%3FSubscriptionId%3D05YCYKW7BZ6ZSVJR4ZR2%26tag%3Dwhere2getit-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0053YKE72

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=320-2676

[Chalenge]

Try here:

http://www.colorhq.com/Default.asp

or more precisely:

http://www.colorhq.com/Professional-Series-Monitors-s/100.htm

Notice the good ones start at around $3000.

Or you could go to Nerds and get a Lacie for a little more than $800 and get close enough for learning color printing techniques.

[RTHolmes]

what are the LaCie flatscreens like? I had a LaCie Blue 17" crt ages ago which was way better than anything else for the money. I calibrated it manually then later borrowed a hardware calibrater and it was almost spot on



edit: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk is a good site for monitor reviews.

[715]

how about one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-VP2365-LED-23-Inch-Monitor-Black/dp/B0053YKE72%3FSubscriptionId%3D05YCYKW7BZ6ZSVJR4ZR2%26tag%3Dwhere2getit-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0053YKE72

That does look good.  Apparently there are more affordable IPS panel LCDs out now than there were when I was looking about a year ago.  (Or, more likely, I'm incompetent in looking for them.)

When I said "accurate color" I meant in a layman way- i.e. as opposed to the "horrifically inaccurate color" of my current non IPS LCD.  I'm sure even most IPS panels won't meet strict professional requirements.

[RTHolmes]

If you found a true color LCD for $500 please tell me what it is.

if you mean truecolor as in 24bit sRGB theres plenty about like mine. the newer HP IPS monitors are 30bit iirc.

[Chalenge]

If you will notice: most "accurate color" manufacturers list their monitors as 100,000:1 contrast ratio or better (gyrenes is 20,000,000:1) while the true color monitors are 800:1 give or take. If they take that kind of latitude with the measurement of contrast ratios how can their color standards be any better?

@RTholmes: actually I think they are 12-bit with 16-bit interpolation processing on the monitor side. Not sure where the extra 2 bits comes in.

And before you go there: 10-bit video output:

http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.php?t=product/aja_kona-3g

I tried a search for the Quadro FX 4800 but couldnt find one in your area.

[gyrene81]

actually chalenge i found links to those monitors from 3 different "professional photography" monitor reviews. according to the mfg specs they fit the industry standard for adobe rgb color 24bit (8+8+8).

[Chalenge]

Yes but thats only the first stage. You can deliver the same RGB values to a less than stellar monitor and have fine results but does it display them from a table of 68 billion colors or is it limited to the standard 16.7 million? Thats where most monitors fall short and yes the human eye can tell the difference.

You dont need this for learning graphics anyway. I think I already said that. But you need to be aware there is a huge difference.