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Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« on: October 31, 2011, 10:35:26 PM »
Since we're getting a heavy fighter (Me-410), how about having a whole heavy fighter patch?

Update the Ju-88 model and perhaps add different variants? I think the solid nosed Ju88s would fill a nice hole in the Battle of The Atlantic scenarios, and I'd definitely use it in the MA as a jabo. Raids of Ju88Gs, Me410s, and 110Gs would be a nice sight to see. :aok

I'm sure the experts will come and post the specifications, as well as the most likely variant to be added.

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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 05:48:03 AM »
 :salute that would be nice.

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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 12:40:03 PM »
late war JU88s were monsters. . . especially in the dark.

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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 12:47:51 PM »
And rare... The Ju-88G was only a night fighter. It was also somewhat late to the game.

The Ju-88C was the daytime attackers, and its speeds were only comparable to the Ju-88A4 it was based off of.

Nice to have the guns package, but it wouldn't be a monster in any way. Might be cool to do some scenarios where they were used against bombers, or against shipping (assuming we get some shipping to kill).

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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 05:40:50 PM »
I wonder how a Ju88G-7 would do against a Mosquito Mk.30.
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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 06:08:02 PM »
My source says 402Mph at altitude with 6x MG151/20s.

It's no doubt heavier and less responsive than our Mossie, but as a heavy fighter, bomber interceptor or town killer, it would be pretty deadly.

I wonder if HTC would make it's radar useful.

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 06:32:10 PM »
I wonder if HTC would make it's radar useful.
Unless they were to do something completely incorrect for WWII airborne radar, none of the WWII radar sets would be useful in AH.
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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 07:07:43 PM »
Unless they were to do something completely incorrect for WWII airborne radar, none of the WWII radar sets would be useful in AH.

Hmm, going by memory here, so I might sound like a fool..but.. :o

Didn't the ground radar/radar operators had much more effective radar with larger "field of view" on the screen? This data would be transfered to the pilots, which had their planes with their own small radar, and when they got close enough to the bomber formations, they would be able to see it on their "small' radar.

If this is the case (though something tells me it's not), then perhaps in AH, planes with their own radar system could have an constantly updated radar status around them, say 10.0K. So if you were to open up your clipboard, and there happens to be an enemy within 10K, you would see their movement (without delay), on the clipboard.

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 07:37:20 PM »
10k would be longer ranged that the radar in WWII was.  It was also highly directional.  Think more like 5k in a narrow cone ahead of you.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 09:50:17 PM »
Then it might be pointless in the MA, but highly useful in scenarios, AvA, and would actually make night scenarios challenging with no icons but not unplayable either.

Have bigger delays for the normal radar we have now, so players would have a sense of where the enemy is. Then, once the night fighters pick the bomber formations up, all hell breaks loose. (this being for night scenarios only of course)

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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 10:25:50 PM »
Then it might be pointless in the MA, but highly useful in scenarios, AvA, and would actually make night scenarios challenging with no icons but not unplayable either.

Have bigger delays for the normal radar we have now, so players would have a sense of where the enemy is. Then, once the night fighters pick the bomber formations up, all hell breaks loose. (this being for night scenarios only of course)
That would simplify the cat and mouse game too much.  You'd need a British radar equipped fighter as well.  You'd want Window and Monica modeled.  Both the Lancasters and Mosquito night fighters carried Monica.  Pathfinder flares would be needed for target marking.

A lot of work for a scenario that probably wouldn't be at all popular.
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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 10:34:45 PM »
Well... Big :aok for a remodel of that big, green brick (do I mean the B-26, or the Ju-88..?)

Other variants might be nice-- heavy fighter especially. But something for the 410 to fight. Like say... A Beaufighter!!! :D















Or a YB-40.... :noid:

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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 05:55:54 AM »
Id sit as a gunner/radar op for 3 hours that would be dam cool to sneak up on some buffs and bust em.  :x
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Re: Ju-88 Remodel and Variants
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 11:06:16 AM »
The Ju 88C-6 Heavy Day Fighter would be the rough equivilant of adding the "strafer version" of the B-25C that we have. 1 x MG151 20mm, 3 x 7.92mms forward firing and an option forward firing gun gondola (removable) with 2 x 20mm MG-FFs and it retained its bomb and torpedo carrying capacity. It came out in 1942, was used in the West, Med and Eastern Fronts and saw wide service. I would like to see it added as a model when the Ju 88 series gets its remodelling done. It woud be a usefull attack a/c for the Luftwaffe in SEA setups and I can't see it being all that hard to model since its based on the A-4. It is a bit faster by @ 20mph? (sources seem to differ). Not uber but thats not a reason to not include it as a variant.

I don't see the point in a night fighter version like the Ju 88G series (or any other night fighter) untill HTC tackles airborne radars and night fighting in the game.
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