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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2011, 09:32:19 PM »

(Don't forget the big cultural differences. The view on WWII is much different, there are no "heroic" TV shows, there is no such thing as a "military channel" and so on)


Thats something I've always been curious about. Now I don't mean to sound rude or offend anyone but how exactly is the war viewed over there. What is the German outlook(not really the word I'm looking for) of the war?

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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2011, 09:39:07 PM »
Thats something I've always been curious about. Now I don't mean to sound rude or offend anyone but how exactly is the war viewed over there. What is the German outlook(not really the word I'm looking for) of the war?
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I think the lengthy answer this question does require would be way out of the scope of this thread and the "AH General Discussion forum" ;)
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2011, 05:36:39 AM »
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Yea my 3 years here in Mannheim have shown me even 70 years after the fact it's still a touchy subject.
but some are really interested, but others just want to bury it.
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2011, 06:30:38 AM »
I bought it as a souvenir.

It has an A3 size poster of the cover and seeing as it was me and kaz in the tiffies it brings back memories    :cry

Srsly, that's pretty cool.  I'd like an A3 sized poster of me flying with my favorite wingman of all time, Grizz, but the picture would be different. There would be plane parts in his wake out as far as you can see and I'd be colliding with a bomber.
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2011, 06:47:22 AM »

Plenty of people here know other lanuages. I know spanish, a fair bit of italian, some German, and even a little Polish.

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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2011, 06:57:33 AM »
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I think the lengthy answer this question does require would be way out of the scope of this thread and the "AH General Discussion forum" ;)

Slighly more on topic, I had Silent Hunter III, and somehow along the line I had heard or read that games with the "swastika" on graphics were not saleable in Germany. Is that true, and would it require a different boxed version be sold there as opposed to what would be available as the regular online AH?
I got to thinking about this again recently when I (finally) got into a Brewster and noticed it has one. I'm sure others have it too, but it made me again question the truth to it.

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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2011, 07:02:21 AM »
Trying to sell a game that is in English in countries that dont speak it as their first language is nuts.

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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2011, 07:08:21 AM »
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2011, 07:14:27 AM »
Trying to sell a game that is in English in countries that dont speak it as their first language is nuts.

Not necessarily over here. There is still  quite a number of games being sold running in English only, either because they are only available in that language or  because not few players actually prefer the original one (just like with dubbed vs original language movies).
It's also depending on the target audience, players of non mainstream games are used to English games only.
To port a game to another language is a costly matter. A company has to consider costs vs benefit - does the German version increases the potential customer base enough to compensate the increased expenses? With mainstream games, or those targeted at very casual gamers you absolutely have to, but with a sim like AH and a rather limited marketing budget of a small company dedicated to a single product I guess it just doesn't work.
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2011, 07:19:18 AM »
Slighly more on topic, I had Silent Hunter III, and somehow along the line I had heard or read that games with the "swastika" on graphics were not saleable in Germany. Is that true, and would it require a different boxed version be sold there as opposed to what would be available as the regular online AH?
I got to thinking about this again recently when I (finally) got into a Brewster and noticed it has one. I'm sure others have it too, but it made me again question the truth to it.

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There are no symbols in AH which are illegal in Germany. That's why HTC won't accept any German swastikas on submitted skins. The Finnish blue swastika is an entirely different thing, with different design, meaning, heritage. It is not a symbol of national socialism and thus not outlawed here.
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2011, 07:26:22 AM »
Trying to sell a game that is in English in countries that dont speak it as their first language is nuts.
Most games sold here are in English. Some may have installation instructions in Finnish, though. You know: "Insert the disk into the optical reader..."
Heck, even Finnish games are mostly in English! I don't think Max Payne had any Finnish voice acting, and Angry Birds' menus are in English. I'm not sure about the Russian game, IL-2, if it has other than English menus. I think the Forgotten Battles version had some Finnish voice acting. The same can be told about some ww2 FPS's, but nevertheless that only serves for atmosphere, not helping in the gaming itself. Just like the "Base Under Attack" warning in AH.

So, are we nuts for buying these games, or are the game vendors out of their wits?

[Edit] Lusche, you're typing much faster than I...
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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2011, 07:46:11 AM »
Not necessarily over here. There is still  quite a number of games being sold running in English only, either because they are only available in that language or  because not few players actually prefer the original one (just like with dubbed vs original language movies).
It's also depending on the target audience, players of non mainstream games are used to English games only.
To port a game to another language is a costly matter. A company has to consider costs vs benefit - does the German version increases the potential customer base enough to compensate the increased expenses? With mainstream games, or those targeted at very casual gamers you absolutely have to, but with a sim like AH and a rather limited marketing budget of a small company dedicated to a single product I guess it just doesn't work.

Is it really that hard to port it, of course for htc to do it on their own would prove to costly. Fact is they do not have to provide support in any language apart from english they just have to give the users the ability to translate the games menu options to their language, something like a simple text file with every menu option and error message etc in english, someone who was say french would be able to translate this and post a version for others to download on the forum like soundpacks are.

They dont have to support it, the players of this game would do it for them for nothing. Seen some poor numbers guy in the TA the other night trying to talk to morfiend he was brazilian, he was typing in broken english but couldn't figure out how to get to a1 or switch countries. Blade a Japanese player has already single handed translated the AHWiki to Japanese. HTC doesn't have to tell anyone to do this, just make it possible so they can.

I do think this is a niche market but every country will have people who want to play this game and love this game, if HTC wants more players they have to provide the option for the users to talk and read the game in their own language.


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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2011, 08:02:11 AM »
Most games sold here are in English. Some may have installation instructions in Finnish, though. You know: "Insert the disk into the optical reader..."
Heck, even Finnish games are mostly in English! I don't think Max Payne had any Finnish voice acting, and Angry Birds' menus are in English. I'm not sure about the Russian game, IL-2, if it has other than English menus. I think the Forgotten Battles version had some Finnish voice acting. The same can be told about some ww2 FPS's, but nevertheless that only serves for atmosphere, not helping in the gaming itself. Just like the "Base Under Attack" warning in AH.

So, are we nuts for buying these games, or are the game vendors out of their wits?

[Edit] Lusche, you're typing much faster than I...

IL2 is supported in Russian and various other languages iirc, definitely Russian. To answer your question if you are nuts, not really you understand English its not really a problem, would you play Aces High if it was only available in say Japanese, I would bet you wouldn't learn a new language just to play this game.

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Re: Aces High for 29$ on d2d?
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2011, 08:03:28 AM »
.... Of course they'll have to do something about the language barrier on 200.  ….

I don't think it will matter a bit to any new non English speaking (and writing) players. In ROF we have such a multinational player base the text buffer is constantly filled with a mixture of English, German, French, Italian, Russian, Greek, Etc. I can't read anything bar the English, it doesn't matter, I just ignore the rest.

The big question is how you as the Aces High community react and adapt to this!

Will you just accept it and welcome these new paying customers? or will the little generals be demanding everyone speak English!
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