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Re: Gold... History... US... just saying...
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2011, 02:48:07 PM »
I was focused on the "spit shining their shoes for a living" part

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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2011, 02:54:37 PM »
come do my job for about six months ;)
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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2011, 04:53:53 PM »
yeah...but he won the war.

"Gold Confiscation of 1933 is the single most draconian economic act in the history of the United States."  Federal Income Tax nothwithstanding.

 actually, it was the young men and women that will forever be viewed as heros by some of us that won the war.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2011, 06:54:37 PM »
not yet

Hyperinflation has to hit first.

$40 loaves of bread... $300 per gallon of gas... etc...
I used to live through inflation, unemplyment ; See the picure below; In 1989 during Revolution i was student ,used to live exactly in this bldg, Technical University Campus, Cluj-Napoca,Romania. See what we wrotte on the building during the revolution; Liberty=Salami, because we went to bed many times with empty stomach. Before "89 basic foods were given by gov. with coupons, but we had to pay; we had 1 lb of meat,1 lb of sugar 500 ml of coocking oil/ month/person for bread and milk i used to wake up at 5-6 AM and wait in line until 8AM when the repuplying truck came to store. After "89 with privatization ,thinks changed lots of full grocery stores, but was hard to buy; unempoyment was 45% in some cities,and inflation over 200%/year.I hope i won't go through this again.

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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2011, 07:32:23 PM »
I used to live through inflation, unemplyment ; See the picure below; In 1989 during Revolution i was student ,used to live exactly in this bldg, Technical University Campus, Cluj-Napoca,Romania. See what we wrotte on the building during the revolution; Liberty=Salami, because we went to bed many times with empty stomach. Before "89 basic foods were given by gov. with coupons, but we had to pay; we had 1 lb of meat,1 lb of sugar 500 ml of coocking oil/ month/person for bread and milk i used to wake up at 5-6 AM and wait in line until 8AM when the repuplying truck came to store. After "89 with privatization ,thinks changed lots of full grocery stores, but was hard to buy; unempoyment was 45% in some cities,and inflation over 200%/year.I hope i won't go through this again.
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2011, 08:27:04 PM »
actually, it was the young men and women that will forever be viewed as heros by some of us that won the war.

that was my point Cap..it was satire.

my father and my uncles were among those people......and I appreciate that..and what they did... ever day.

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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2011, 08:29:26 PM »
I used to live through inflation, unemplyment ; See the picure below; In 1989 during Revolution i was student ,used to live exactly in this bldg, Technical University Campus, Cluj-Napoca,Romania. See what we wrotte on the building during the revolution; Liberty=Salami, because we went to bed many times with empty stomach. Before "89 basic foods were given by gov. with coupons, but we had to pay; we had 1 lb of meat,1 lb of sugar 500 ml of coocking oil/ month/person for bread and milk i used to wake up at 5-6 AM and wait in line until 8AM when the repuplying truck came to store. After "89 with privatization ,thinks changed lots of full grocery stores, but was hard to buy; unempoyment was 45% in some cities,and inflation over 200%/year.I hope i won't go through this again.
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I appreciate you post.  I talk to a lot of my friends about hyperinflation...and there is this prevailing "it can't happen here" attitude amongst them...and among most americans.  it can..and it will...in the next 5 years.









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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2011, 08:42:31 PM »
that was my point Cap..it was satire.

my father and my uncles were among those people......and I appreciate that..and what they did... ever day.
sorry about that.


 my great uncle was in the 26th Infantry Regiment, 1st Infantry Division. killed on feb. 2, 1945.

 he was killed in action. was a medic, and according to my grand mom, he was dragging wounded off the field when he was killed. i never met the guy, but i am named after him. wish i could have met him.
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2011, 08:42:43 PM »
I used to live through inflation, unemplyment ; See the picure below; In 1989 during Revolution i was student ,used to live exactly in this bldg, Technical University Campus, Cluj-Napoca,Romania. See what we wrotte on the building during the revolution; Liberty=Salami, because we went to bed many times with empty stomach. Before "89 basic foods were given by gov. with coupons, but we had to pay; we had 1 lb of meat,1 lb of sugar 500 ml of coocking oil/ month/person for bread and milk i used to wake up at 5-6 AM and wait in line until 8AM when the repuplying truck came to store. After "89 with privatization ,thinks changed lots of full grocery stores, but was hard to buy; unempoyment was 45% in some cities,and inflation over 200%/year.I hope i won't go through this again.
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Re: Gold... History... US... just saying...
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2011, 08:53:43 PM »
I appreciate you post.  I talk to a lot of my friends about hyperinflation...and there is this prevailing "it can't happen here" attitude amongst them...and among most americans.  it can..and it will...in the next 5 years.
i doubt it will happen in the next 5 years but, yes it can and will happen sooner or later. when it happens we will be doing what the germans did in the mid 30s, carry money around in wheel barrows. a lot is going to depend on what economic reforms are put in place, if any...



ghi, i can't imagine having to live under those conditions...and i hope you never have to do it again.  :salute
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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2011, 08:56:27 PM »
could be worse.

We could have a king&queen who do nothing but get free stuff  all day.  :uhoh
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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2011, 10:32:53 PM »
I suggest investing in, gold, silver, and copper jackets. :banana:
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Re: Gold... History... US... just saying...
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2011, 11:48:11 PM »
I suggest buyINg your own lead and reloading supplies...also learning some basic gunsmithing and being prepared to defend against the INflationary hordes.

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« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2011, 12:39:51 AM »
the executive order could have been challenged or over turned by congress or through the supreme court. we are in a time of severe economic distress so i'm missing your point on that one. it wasn't related to the decline of the value of the dollar it was intended to increase the value of the dollar. when we stopped using the "gold standard", the value of the dollar became highly subjective.

Just to get the economics correct here... It was to decrease the value of the dollar.  Before the revaluation it took only about $20 to buy an oz of gold, after the revaluation you had to come up with $35 for that same oz of gold because each dollar was now worth less.

Fast forward to 1971 just before we left the gold standard, it still took $35 to purchase an oz.  After we left the gold standard it has taken more and more dollars to purchase the same oz.  Note today you have to come up with about $1,750 to buy that same single oz of gold.  The dollar is worth far less today than in 1971 or in 1933 because you have to come up with so many more dollars to buy the same oz of gold.

In 1971 people would likely have laughted at you if you told them that four decades later (in 2011) that this $35 oz of gold (a price held steady for the previous four decades) will require 50 times ($1,750 / $35) as much money to buy that same little oz of gold. :frown:

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Re: Gold... History... US... just saying...
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2011, 05:06:11 AM »
I say it is better to become a salami hoarder than a gold hoarder; one can eat the salami when things go belly-up.


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