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Offline Guppy35

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #105 on: November 15, 2011, 07:04:21 PM »
I think the reason that WWII holds such a power over people's hearts and minds is because it really was the last great war. No other conflicts before or after have shaken not just nations or contients but the whole world. And few of the wars since have been fought not for something, but against something so vile that it unites entire countries to fight behind a cause.

Untill another conflict on such a scale occures, WWII will always be the war people remember.

The danger becomes if we romanticize it too much it does become some sort of 'good' war.  There is no such thing.  In so many ways you could argue it's still not over, but then again WW2 was really just the continuation of WW1 in many ways
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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #106 on: November 15, 2011, 07:18:43 PM »
I said it was the last Great War, not a good war. Something can be great, and at the same time, the blackest evil imaginable. The two aren't antonyms, or even mutualy exclusive terms.

And thats arguable, to a certian extent. While the war as a conflict may not be good, the war as its causes and the sacrafice made by the men and women who join behind those casues can, in some cases, be considered good.

Like I said, the allies in WWII didn't fight FOR something. They didn't stand to gain anything from a victory (that the United States emerged as unarguably the most powerfull nation at the time was merely a result of their use of atomic weapons. The loss of life, the families torn apart, and the suffering by those who endured it will never be worth that dubious distinction). What they did was fight against hitler and the Axis, because they believed that he and the evil he stired up needed to end.

In that sense, WWII was also the only 'good' war. That being said, you are right, its not good to overly romanticize the war. However if we allow it to slip into abscurity in the same way many other conflicts have, it no longer serves as a warning to future generations.



I think its safe to say that WWII is over. Unless theres still German-french emnity simmering below the surface that I'm unaware of. Although France seems to have been rather..... reserved, and withdrawn from world afairs since WWII.
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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #107 on: November 15, 2011, 07:36:08 PM »
Don't limit yourself to one country's aircraft.

Maybe 60% of the time I'm in an FM-2, but I also love flying the 109F. When I want to roll heavy, I'm either in a 38J or an A-20, i'll up zekes to try to break a base cap, K4s or D9s for bomber intercept, and i'll fly yaks because they're down right fun.

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #108 on: November 15, 2011, 08:13:27 PM »
It can broaden your view of aviation history, let you see the good and bad points of various aircraft, and even give you more insight into the comparative advantages and disadvantages of your favored aircraft.

Also, it can be like trying other foods instead of being dull and eating hamburgers for every meal of your life, even if hamburgers did happen to be the victors of the Great Food Battle of the 1900's.  We've got sushi and pasta and borscht and schnitzel and fish and chips, too! :)

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #109 on: November 15, 2011, 09:05:35 PM »
LOL!  :rofl oh man... if I were like that i Would only be able to fly the p47.. well im not a subscriber anymore so what the heck eh  :rolleyes:
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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #110 on: November 15, 2011, 10:50:37 PM »
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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2011, 02:14:24 AM »
Brooke eats Sushi :cry

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Fish chips and peas and a round if bread is for blokes :old:

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #112 on: November 16, 2011, 03:32:31 AM »
WWII very much was a continuation of WWI. This traveller's guide website explain it rather well I believe. The famous words of Ferdinand Foch "This is not a peace, it is a armastice for 20 years!" was not in surprise after reading the document. For it was Ferdinand Foch who negotiated the terms, or rather set them as there wasn't much of a negotiation. So it was a statement, it was never intended to be peace. One can argue that it was a continuation of the war by other means. WWII was a very logical continuation of the chain of events.

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #113 on: November 16, 2011, 04:50:15 AM »
WWII very much was a continuation of WWI. This traveller's guide website explain it rather well I believe. The famous words of Ferdinand Foch "This is not a peace, it is a armastice for 20 years!" was not in surprise after reading the document. For it was Ferdinand Foch who negotiated the terms, or rather set them as there wasn't much of a negotiation. So it was a statement, it was never intended to be peace. One can argue that it was a continuation of the war by other means. WWII was a very logical continuation of the chain of events.

In many ways, ww1 and ww2 was a violent dismantlement of the 'old/colonial Europe'.  In ww1 forced the collapse of the Austro-hungarian Monarchy, Ottoman Monarchy & Russian Monarchy. Ww2 was in a way, Germany trying to 'recreate' its 'glory' of the first Reich (Holy Roman Empire) and second Reich (Prussian Empire) combined with a perverted twist of hate. Furthermore, ww2 accelerated the decline of the British Empire as it nearly bankrupted England and soon after lost many of its colonies it had acquired during its days as a Monarchy (India in 1948, etc..). Furthermore, France lost its colonies and Italy acquired and lost colonies. As well as the US loosing its only major colony, the Philippines.

In the end, it thrusted Europe into the 20th and 21st century, with no option of going back.
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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #114 on: November 16, 2011, 04:53:16 AM »
Yes Foch I read that :old:

We are still feeling the results if these great events today :old:

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #115 on: November 16, 2011, 05:52:25 AM »
In the end, it thrusted Europe into the 20th and 21st century, with no option of going back.


And now... we have credit default swaps.  :lol

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #116 on: November 16, 2011, 01:34:39 PM »
I think its safe to say that WWII is over. Unless theres still German-french emnity simmering below the surface that I'm unaware of. Although France seems to have been rather..... reserved, and withdrawn from world afairs since WWII.

Well they have deposed the leaders of two sovereign countries last week.    Who next for the sake of the Euro?      :P

They are like a bad marriage with the woman wearing the trousers.   I guess America has to now step in and solve this one too oh wait  your even more broke    nvm.....
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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2011, 01:43:49 PM »
Brooke eats Sushi :cry

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Ah, yes!  Fish and chips and peas and a pint!  Or bangers and mash, or a pie and chips, or a full English breakfast!  Mmmmm.  Old Speckled Hen or a Boddingtons, please!

My favorite fish and chips was at the Golden Hind in London, followed by The Three Lion's British pub near where I live in the USA (I have British food about once a week).

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #118 on: November 16, 2011, 01:51:58 PM »
oh wait  your even more broke    nvm.....

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Re: Last of a dying breed...
« Reply #119 on: November 16, 2011, 02:44:39 PM »
Don't worry -- our current administration loves to print money by the trillions.
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