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Offline tmetal

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 04:54:53 PM »
what can i say man? (we need a shoulder shrug smiley) I think the F14 is a better looking plane than the F18, and personally when talking just the F18; I prefer the earlier models to the newer super hornets (back when she still had more curves to her).  Aside from video games and simulators I have no stick time in either airframe; and I know that the F18 is a much more capable/flexable plane (she was built to be multi mission capable). Given the choice of riding in a F18 or a F14, the tomcat would win hands down every time for me, it wouldn't even be close.  

The closest I have to experience with the F18 is airshows and building the multi-directional optics head for the FLIR pods they strap under the wings, and that job ended a few years ago for me.  Tomcat over hornet is just my personal preference. Unfortunately, wiley is probably right and they will use that ugly F35, and instead of "hit the breaks and he'll fly right by!" it will be "put her in hover and he'll fly right by!"
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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 05:01:13 PM »
and personally when talking just the F18; I prefer the earlier models to the newer super hornets (back when she still had more curves to her). 

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 05:19:44 PM »
Hmm,  :confused: don't know how to really respond about it's curves, it's never really had a lot in the way of curves since the begining (but that's why I've always loved her, i'd describe her visual  characteristics as "pointy, sharp, rugged and durable with only the right amount of curves in the right places").  I'd argue the newer super hornet has "more curves" because they reworked the aerodynamic properties/performance/size/placement of the engine intakes.... personal opinions being what they are and all.   :D
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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 05:28:12 PM »
I'd argue the newer super hornet has "more curves" because they reworked the aerodynamic properties/performance/size/placement of the engine intakes.... personal opinions being what they are and all.   :D

I thought they took away the "Breast Cup" looking intakes from the Super Hornet and made them look more like those of the F-14 &/or F-15 more squared off and larger

the older / 1st generation hornets had the  curved looking intakes iirc......... hmmm........

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 05:33:41 PM »
Hmm,  :confused: don't know how to really respond about it's curves, it's never really had a lot in the way of curves since the begining (but that's why I've always loved her, i'd describe her visual  characteristics as "pointy, sharp, rugged and durable with only the right amount of curves in the right places").  I'd argue the newer super hornet has "more curves" because they reworked the aerodynamic properties/performance/size/placement of the engine intakes.... personal opinions being what they are and all.   :D


And to me her lack of curves (especially compaired to the tomcat) is what "turns me off" for lack of a better phrase. I feel the same way about the new corvettes and camaros; way too many sharp angles and edges and not enough curves.  Don't get me wrong, too curvy is a turn off to (modern VW beetles, and that new Fiat). For me the F14 strikes a good balance between curves and edges and I love her for it.  :)


Who wants to start a pool that the main character of the new movie will be the son of tom cruise's charater from the original?
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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2011, 05:39:48 PM »
I thought they took away the "Breast Cup" looking intakes from the Super Hornet and made them look more like those of the F-14 &/or F-15 more squared off and larger

the older / 1st generation hornets had the  curved looking intakes iirc......... hmmm........

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2011, 05:57:47 PM »
I thought they took away the "Breast Cup" looking intakes from the Super Hornet and made them look more like those of the F-14 &/or F-15 more squared off and larger

the older / 1st generation hornets had the  curved looking intakes iirc......... hmmm........

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The "squared" intakes of the F-18 (and I'd assume similar to the F-15) are only square in apearance at the front head-on angle.  From that point onward, the intakes are very aerodynamicly honed/curved to fit the shape and aerodynamic properties of the aircraft and powerplants.  They're each a mini over-engineered wind tube/tunnel.  In comparison, the old intakes on the F-18 were essentialy a stove pipe that was split in half length-wise and slapped onto the rear underside.  Yes, they were curved much like any half tube is, but otherwise they were very straight and simple in deisgn and function.  At the straight 90-degree side angle, the opening is still kinda squared, but agressively slanted.  At any other angle or point you look at the intake design/flow and it is extremely un-boxy or rigid and extensively aerodynamicly engineered.

I would compare them to water slides most similarly these days, even the materials are similar.  A few decades ago, a simple straight metal half-tube/pipe and garden hose did the trick and would get the kids going down it all weekend.  Nowadays, the standard is some carbon-fiber-composite, fancy wide launches/scoops to start from, a design that curves and gets gradually narrower (and faster for the rider) twords the bottom, variable-rate water dispersion nozzles strategicly places along the entire length...  yup, it's a lot like water slides lol, the ones these days are a heckuva lot fancier and have a lot more bells and whistles than the ol' stormwater culverts we'd drag home and jimmy-rig up in our backyards - but they're also a heckuva lot faster, safer and probabley fun too.
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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2011, 05:59:14 PM »
You're right.

And I'm sorry, horse face Jessica Parker over Jessica Alba? No wonder you can't see a difference in driving a Hornet or a Tomcat.

You know what they say about those with the luxury to be picky and choosey.
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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 06:02:13 PM »
Top Gun 2 should pull a starbuck.

Jessica Alba.. or Stoya... be the lead role pilot.


Plane? The YF-23 of course.



She meets Maverick as an instructor in the academy and after much womanizing attempts she flat out tells him she doesnt date outside her own religion. In revenge he signs her up for some secret mission involving dropping a bomb on bin laden's clone .. or or maybe on one of donald trump's yachts... she meets Iceman's daughter, has a lesbo scene prior to the ejection scene.


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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 07:22:40 PM »
We already have a songun remake, unfortunately the movie was made in north korea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nKuoNhihh4

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2011, 07:39:13 PM »
The "squared" intakes of the F-18 (and I'd assume similar to the F-15) are only square in apearance at the front head-on angle.  From that point onward, the intakes are very aerodynamicly honed/curved to fit the shape and aerodynamic properties of the aircraft and powerplants.  They're each a mini over-engineered wind tube/tunnel.  In comparison, the old intakes on the F-18 were essentialy a stove pipe

so you are saying that both the regular hornet & the Super hornet , now have the same intake design????

you kind of lost me there, the Super Hornet did not even exist back in the 80's when I was in the Navy as an Aviation machinists ( AD / JetMech )

doesn't really matter.....   did they ever convert the F-14 to "fly-by-wire"  like the F-18s ........... something else I started thinking of for no apparent reason......... although I doubt they did or would undertake such a huge overhaul .......... how many F-14 squadrons are even left these days, I wonder???

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2011, 08:09:40 PM »
The Movie is already in production. In fact, Tom Cruise was just in Pittsburgh filming part of it. In Top Gun 2, he is the instructor. 
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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2011, 08:15:21 PM »
so you are saying that both the regular hornet & the Super hornet , now have the same intake design????

you kind of lost me there, the Super Hornet did not even exist back in the 80's when I was in the Navy as an Aviation machinists ( AD / JetMech )

doesn't really matter.....   did they ever convert the F-14 to "fly-by-wire"  like the F-18s ........... something else I started thinking of for no apparent reason......... although I doubt they did or would undertake such a huge overhaul .......... how many F-14 squadrons are even left these days, I wonder???

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 08:17:50 PM »
Worried it will be a 'lets get oiled up and towel flick each other' type movie again

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Re: For all the "TopGun" movie fans- possible sequel?
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2011, 08:30:16 PM »
But the remaining Migs had bugged out? So---what they turned around?  Hal? HAL? What does that mean?

How's that movie mashup?  :D
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