German Armored Divisions

[PAKFRONT]

What Shuckins said is right by everything I have read as well.. The last time the Panzers had full strenth units, of properly trained Panzertruppen, and Fresh Equipment, was at Kursk in 43.. The CREAM, the best the Panzerschules ever produced, was wasted there! The graduates of the Hitler Youth programs, and the Junkerschules.. THE BEST troops that the Germans produced during the war, thrown away in one battle, for no gain! Another thing I have read consistantly, is that, from late 42, the German were producing more SPG's than Tanks.. So, many slots in the TO&E that call for a Panzer??? often were filled by whatever they could get, usually a Stug or Marder of some type.. This was par for all vehicles and units.. Remember also, political favoritism played a big part as to who got what equipment too.. A few units had to be reconstituted from NOTHING, after being wiped out.. Ala Politzie, and Totenkopf twice! And the Germans were big on paper units, carried many on the rosters that never even existed..
The paper OOB of any German unit after Falais is seriously doubtful.. Same after Bagration in the east, some units just disappeared completely from the rosters, wiped out..

[Butcher]

What Shuckins said is right by everything I have read as well.. The last time the Panzers had full strenth units, of properly trained Panzertruppen, and Fresh Equipment, was at Kursk in 43.. The CREAM, the best the Panzerschules ever produced, was wasted there! The graduates of the Hitler Youth programs, and the Junkerschules.. THE BEST troops that the Germans produced during the war, thrown away in one battle, for no gain! Another thing I have read consistantly, is that, from late 42, the German were producing more SPG's than Tanks.. So, many slots in the TO&E that call for a Panzer??? often were filled by whatever they could get, usually a Stug or Marder of some type.. This was par for all vehicles and units.. Remember also, political favoritism played a big part as to who got what equipment too.. A few units had to be reconstituted from NOTHING, after being wiped out.. Ala Politzie, and Totenkopf twice! And the Germans were big on paper units, carried many on the rosters that never even existed..
The paper OOB of any German unit after Falais is seriously doubtful.. Same after Bagration in the east, some units just disappeared completely from the rosters, wiped out..

Paper Divisions have been a common problem with piecing together the Table of Equipment for the German Army, frankly I didn't really care "how many" tanks were in each division, rather I was looking for the simple research of what Division had what Equipment- whether its 1 platoon of Sturmgeschütz III or Marder III's or an entire company. So far I have a rough idea of what 40% of the divisions had, I have all the information for the TO&E - in case for the future we add another German Tank to Aces high, I can say exactly what units used it, and could have profiles available.

Given each Division, Year and Theater - the TO&E was almost never the same in any frame, but I do have a good clue now - I would hate to say never attempt to research this, I couldn't even begin to start on the Japanese Army/Navy for TO&E.

[PAKFRONT]

Paper Divisions have been a common problem with piecing together the Table of Equipment for the German Army, frankly I didn't really care "how many" tanks were in each division, rather I was looking for the simple research of what Division had what Equipment- whether its 1 platoon of Sturmgeschütz III or Marder III's or an entire company. So far I have a rough idea of what 40% of the divisions had, I have all the information for the TO&E - in case for the future we add another German Tank to Aces high, I can say exactly what units used it, and could have profiles available.

Given each Division, Year and Theater - the TO&E was almost never the same in any frame, but I do have a good clue now - I would hate to say never attempt to research this, I couldn't even begin to start on the Japanese Army/Navy for TO&E.

Hell yes, a worthwhile endeavor to study this .. Obviously others have done some reading on this topic, myself included! I will be very interested to see some correlated info on this.. Where they went, who got them, and who didn't.. Ya know, for a people who are considered extremely disciplined stone faced, and pragmatic, their equipment procurement system was absolute CHAOS!