How far can AH2 go on my PC?

[Kovel]

Honestly, I've read every post here and tried everything. But I still have the feeling that my PC is short for running AH smoothly even though numbers say everything's ok:

My FR is always 59, in my LC monitor. Is it enough????

Is there any metyhodical method to measure if my PC is good enough for AH?

Or to see if I'm getting things better o worse for every video set-up I try?  Is FR the last and main indicator of performance?

I'd appreciate any evaluation to my PC. I'm willing to upgrade it if it is necessary.

[Kovel]

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/11/2011, 02:34:34
       Machine name: QUIQUE-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.101026-1503)
           Language: Spanish (Regional Setting: Spanish)
System Manufacturer: Packard Bell
       System Model: imedia S1800
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
          Page File: 996MB used, 7192MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 320
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GT 320
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0CA2&SUBSYS_2150174B&REV_A2
     Display Memory: 2777 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 985 MB
      Shared Memory: 1791 MB
       Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Monitor PnP genérico
      Monitor Model: BenQ GL940
         Monitor Id: BNQ7883
        Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (59.790Hz)
        Output Type: HD15
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.16.0011.9103 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.16.11.9103
        DDI Version: 10.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 9/19/2009 11:01:36, 9441384 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4FE2-11CF-7457-5B011DC2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
          Device ID: 0x0CA2
          SubSys ID: 0x2150174B
        Revision ID: 0x00A2
 Driver Strong Name: oem9.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6 .1:Section011:8.16.11.9103:pci\ven_10de&dev_0ca2
     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C

[Kovel]

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_10250407&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5983 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 11/17/2009 13:13:08, 2037408 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_10250407&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5983 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 11/17/2009 13:13:08, 2037408 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Micrófono (Realtek High Definition Audio)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5983 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/17/2009 13:13:08, 2037408 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Teclado
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: T.Flight Hotas X
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x044F, 0xB108
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ Concentrador raíz USB
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27CB
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Teclado PS/2 estándar
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
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+ Controlador de teclado de Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
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+ Mouse PS/2 de Microsoft
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f03
| Service: i8042prt
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+ Controlador de mouse de Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 247.2 GB
Total Space: 297.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD6400AAKS-22A7B2 ATA Device

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 298.0 GB
Total Space: 298.1 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD6400AAKS-22A7B2 ATA Device

      Drive: E:
      Model: TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653G ATA Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (Spanish), , 0 bytes

[The Fugitive]

One friend told me adding RAM is NEVER a mistake. If you want to test your system a bit more, on the first screen when you start the game go into video settings and check the "disable vsync". When you run the game it will NOT sync up with your monitors refresh rate and show the true FPS your system runs. The problem is the game may show graphic tearing and rubber bullets and such so it's NOT recommended that you play the game with it set like that but it is fine for testing.

As for your system, I would think it will run with all the eye candy fine. If your running at 59 FPS ALL the time no matter how much smoke is around or other planes then your more than fine. The human ey can't see more than 20-30 FPS any way, so I'd say your good.

[Tigger29]

Is there a specific reason you think that your computer may not be performing well?

Chances are that your monitor maxes out at 60FPS anyway (and the 59FPS is really just 60FPS but reported wrong due to a glitch in Win 7) so as long as it always stays up there there is no reason to suspect that anything needs updating.

As a matter of fact being at 59/60FPS all of the time is really an indication that you may be able to push your graphics settings up a bit more!

If gameplay is smooth and you get no crashes or stuttering and you're happy with the appearance of things then there is no need to worry about it.

While more ram is always better I don't think you'll see any noticeable AH performance gains by increasing yours any.  From what I've seen 4GB is still more than most people need.

[MADe]

Your system is fine.
I'm an OK pilot. I spent time trying to see if it was really the machines fault or............ it was not the machines fault. LOL

1. OC your cpu. Faster cpu is always better.
2. disable core parking in W7. Google it.
3. more and faster ram before new machine, ram is dirt cheap now.
4.enable paging executive, moves OS kernal from disk to ram. Google it.
5.if using spin drives, move pagefile to other than boot drive.

The better video cards want a cpu that can handle them, faster helps. The game lives in the video card ram, the system ram, the pagefile and is executed by the cpu. You will not see improved gaming with the above, but the overall system will be more responsive. Even an SSD would not improve gaming, just help it load faster in begining.

Kill and enjoy.


ps:my cpu's at 4GHz 4 core, 6GB 1666MHz DDR3 ram, 550ti vid card with an SSD RAID array boot drive and I always feel the need to fix my machine. LMAO

[Kovel]

Thank you all 

After pushing all the performance to a maximum, I see I still manage to get 100-150 fps while vsyinc is disabled.

And I think they are good news.

 

[MADe]

The game wants v-sync enabled. I have read that the z-buffer should be enabled with v-sync. I run the before selections, with 0 frames pre-rendered.
No matter what, the monitors refresh rate caps the frame rate. The higher frame rate numbers are whats possible for your vid card and system, if your monitor is only capable of 60Hz, you get a max of 60 FPS. Which is more than adequete. Theoretically, with v-sync enabled and a 120Hz refresh rate, you could pull 120 FPS. I would think that you you need high end equipment to get and sustain this high level of performance.
You still would question whether it was you or machine however. LOL

[Krusty]

The fps limitation of your monitor doesn't negate the performance you are able to run...

60 fps is very smooth and you won't be disappointed. IMO the 120 hz refresh rate brings little to the table that a good 60hz doesn't already bring. Usually the advantages lie in better contrast, color, resolution, etc. It's not really a big deal. If you know you can pull well over 100 fps with vsync off, that's your metric. So now you know, turn vsync back on and play the game and have some fun.

[Tigger29]

The fps limitation of your monitor doesn't negate the performance you are able to run...

60 fps is very smooth and you won't be disappointed. IMO the 120 hz refresh rate brings little to the table that a good 60hz doesn't already bring. Usually the advantages lie in better contrast, color, resolution, etc. It's not really a big deal. If you know you can pull well over 100 fps with vsync off, that's your metric. So now you know, turn vsync back on and play the game and have some fun.

That's a very good point you made there.  A lot of people will compare a 60hz monitor to a 120hz monitor and see the picture quality of the 120hz to be much better and tend to attribute that to the increased refresh rate.  In fact the refresh rate really has little to do with it... it's more because the more expensive 120hz monitor is typically better quality in all aspects of image quality and not just in refresh rate.

It would be kind of like saying that a Mercedes is better quality than a Kia because it has all wheel drive when in all reality the all wheel drive actually has little to do with it...

[Chalenge]

4.enable paging executive, moves OS kernal from disk to ram. Google it.

This is a useless configuration change which will do essentially nothing.

[TequilaChaser]

Kovel,
your PC with Windows 7 home edition 64 bit, looks like it probably has a good clean install, with that pagefile used being 996mb ( under 1,000 mb used on windows 7 is very good )

about the only thing I can see that might be worth doing by looking at your dxdiag report you posted is you might want to possibly upgrade the drivers for both your Videocard and for your Realtek onboard soundchip.

both of the drivers ( video / audio ) are quite old ( video = 9/19/2009    audio = 11/17/2009 )  

I would think about updating both of these, and maybe search google for the best possible drivers for your particular " NVIDIA GeForce GT 320 " videocard, and search google for the best possible drivers for your particular " Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio) " audio / onboard soundchip

it is possible that you might be able to gain some increased performance and/or better graphics / better sound

also, you might want to see about downloading and installing the "windows 7 Service Pack 1" update. This might improve your windows 7 OS performance as well.

hope this helps

TC

[MADe]

This is a useless configuration change which will do essentially nothing.

I did state that my suggestions would provide small benefits.
Moving anything off a spin drive too ram cannot hurt. Ram is faster than an SSD even. It is a known fact that modern systems can use separate drives faster than queing  threads up on a single drive. RAID arrays, Readyboost................... ...........
I have done it, it does something, but its minimal. Does nothing for the game persay.
To each his own.
The threader was looking for suggestions, was wondering if and where he could improve puter. I offered something, which is what he asked for. Something realistic, cheap and obtainable with a little self education applied. This is not about you or me. I gave him something to Google.

[Kovel]

Kovel,
your PC with Windows 7 home edition 64 bit, looks like it probably has a good clean install, with that pagefile used being 996mb ( under 1,000 mb used on windows 7 is very good )

about the only thing I can see that might be worth doing by looking at your dxdiag report you posted is you might want to possibly upgrade the drivers for both your Videocard and for your Realtek onboard soundchip.

both of the drivers ( video / audio ) are quite old ( video = 9/19/2009    audio = 11/17/2009 )  

I would think about updating both of these, and maybe search google for the best possible drivers for your particular " NVIDIA GeForce GT 320 " videocard, and search google for the best possible drivers for your particular " Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio) " audio / onboard soundchip

it is possible that you might be able to gain some increased performance and/or better graphics / better sound

also, you might want to see about downloading and installing the "windows 7 Service Pack 1" update. This might improve your windows 7 OS performance as well.

hope this helps

TC

I'll do it 

[Kovel]

I did state that my suggestions would provide small benefits.
Moving anything off a spin drive too ram cannot hurt. Ram is faster than an SSD even. It is a known fact that modern systems can use separate drives faster than queing  threads up on a single drive. RAID arrays, Readyboost................... ...........
I have done it, it does something, but its minimal. Does nothing for the game persay.
To each his own.
The threader was looking for suggestions, was wondering if and where he could improve puter. I offered something, which is what he asked for. Something realistic, cheap and obtainable with a little self education applied. This is not about you or me. I gave him something to Google.

MADe thax a lot