2 quick wishes for the 88 in the upcoming version

[Tilt]

Any dodging on the part of the bomber will be tantamount to abandoning the bomb run.

This assumes the barrage cannot be seen some way off by the bomber who makes the adjustments accordingly.

it also assumes that "barrages" can be co ordinated between 88's. A barrage of one gun is no barrage at all.

IMO tracking aids is the key.

When milkrunning in my B29's at 29 K I would not worry about  a single 88 barrage and take my chances flying thru/close to it.

[Lusche]

I think you miss my point 

[Karnak]

This assumes the barrage cannot be seen some way off by the bomber who makes the adjustments accordingly.

88 won't be able to fire far enough away for the bomber, even a slow one let along a perk bomber, to dodge the barrage and still make the bomb run on that town.

Likewise, I would fly through it.  I can see some people being willing to jump from town to town as they flash the attack.  After all, if I am willing to fly between bases, there may be those willing to match my progress in 88mm guns.

[Tilt]

You  refer to a barrage and then assume you could actually put one in place. By barrage one assumes (or knows) the altitude and course of the incoming bomber and then set up a fire pattern in its path .

If you wish to interfere with my drop pattern then you better have that barrage in place  from several 88's a quarter of a sector out from my target at my exact altitude (25K) or I simple ignore it.

If as I suggested you had the tools to track my ingress then you have a much better chance of adjusting your settings to more effect.

Tracking would be much more effective than a barrage for which IMO you would need control over several 88's much (although modelled totally diferently) as a fleet is able to put up. Believe me when milk running I stay well away from fleets.

Karnak if an 88 cant fire far enough away then I have dropped already. In which case the 88 is useless regardless of how much folk jump from one base to another to use one.

[Lusche]

It very obvious that you are still totally missing my point. 

[Karnak]

To do an accurate bomb run with a G4M1 I need at least 15 miles to stabilize the speed.  The perk bombers need well more than a sector and a half.  I don't drop from anything like those distances.  Hence, if I have to dodge I won't bomb that town.

[Tilt]

To do an accurate bomb run with a G4M1 I need at least 15 miles to stabilize the speed.  The perk bombers need well more than a sector and a half.  I don't drop from anything like those distances.  Hence, if I have to dodge I won't bomb that town.

Never used the G4M1 I use the B29 in Bomber mode and the Boston in Attack. And I can finalise my speed within seconds of release. Whilst at hi alt I may be releasing a quarter of a sector out I am not routinely in the bomb sight for more than a quarter sector. If you want to stear and hold a more stable speed use your rudder from a gunner position or your joy stick from the bomber position.

[Melvin]

 

[Karnak]

I use the joystick from the bombardier position to adjust course.

It just takes the fast bombers a long time to settle on a speed.  Sure, if you don't care much about accuracy you can just do a few second calibration that is close to the speed you're at, but it takes 30 seconds and a stable speed to calibrate at the speed you're going to be at when you pass over the target.

[1Nicolas]

IT also needs a better traverse speed.

[Karnak]

IT also needs a better traverse speed.

Traverse is fine.  It isn't supposed to be shooting at fighters close to the base.

[hitech]

Do we really want troop killing that easy?

HiTech

[Charge]

88 feels fine ATM, I'd like to see how it does in MA before further adjustments.

Maybe some kind of solution to approximate distances beyond visual range? Maybe the sight could be held on target and some button pressed for a few seconds to get distance and speed, i.e. similar to the existing bomb sight system?

-C+

[Melvin]

Do we really want troop killing that easy?

HiTech

Not sure what you mean by that Chief.

To me, one way to stem the flow of base rollers is to make things a bit more difficult. Now, instead of flattening a town and dropping mass troops, they would be forced to deal with some extra flak that could theoretically reach out and pop troops and/ or the transports.

I, personally, would like to see a VH added to the towns so the buggers really have to work for it.

Think of it like this: If a military force garrisons in a town, it is very likely that they will not only have a few acks on hand, but most likely some tanks, AT guns and several platoons (more likely companies) in the town's perimeter.

 

EDIT: I forgot to add, I totally am on board with the original wish here, not only for the troop killing but also to throw a wrench at milk runners. Of course someone tried to poo poo that idea when I first brought it up.

Who could that have been... 

[lyric1]

Personally I would like the the fixed green range indicator moved from the top left corner of  the screen & placed inside the white targeting ring & have it move with the ring.

This way I am not constantly looking away from my target as I am tracking it & trying to adjust to it.

Also could this be mapped to a joystick? I prefer to adjust range with a button on the stick than keyboard or mouse.

Question on range of 88's for aircraft.

What is the maximum altitude for a shell to be fired?

If it can reach altitudes higher than 18 thousand feet how do we know what altitude an aircraft is if out of icon range?