Chevy finally stepping up to the plate

[Shuffler]

yea, that was a "paper" increase for bragging rights.

With just a tune and nothing else you can add 13 rwhp to the 2010/2011. That aint too shabby.

Simply certified the 6. All hp ratings can be considered "paper" ratings till you actually dyno. Then you have what your car actually truely outputs.

[CAP1]

With just a tune and nothing else you can add 13 rwhp to the 2010/2011. That aint too shabby.

Simply certified the 6. All hp ratings can be considered "paper" ratings till you actually dyno. Then you have what your car actually truely outputs.

 they didn't tune it. they took the new reading from 100rpm higher, and the new torque reading from a little lower rpm.

[SilverZ06]

enjoy that kool-aid cap. I'm out. Enjoy your mustang.

[CAP1]

enjoy that kool-aid cap. I'm out. Enjoy your mustang.

 dude...i wish you wouldn't take any of this too serious. i don't put these up here to piss anyone off, and that's how you sound. it generally stirs up some good conversation amongst car nuts. that's what i intend.

 if any of what i'm sayin' is pissing ya off, i apologize, as i wasn't intending that.

[SilverZ06]

not pissing me off at all. just realize you're set in your OPINION so no point in wasting my time   

[Shuffler]

they didn't tune it. they took the new reading from 100rpm higher, and the new torque reading from a little lower rpm.

I did not say they tuned the 2010 or 2011.

They simply certified it.


I was saying that with a tune you can pull 13 more RWHP.

Silver.. I like my koolaid in the form of a frozen margarita. 

[CAP1]

I did not say they tuned the 2010 or 2011.

They simply certified it.


I was saying that with a tune you can pull 13 more RWHP.

Silver.. I like my koolaid in the form of a frozen margarita. 

 there's only 1 night a year i touch alcohol anymore. that will be next saturday night.

[Reaper90]

Pewter, you just gotta take CAP for what he is, a Fanboi who will hunt high and low for one magazine review or test (almost 99% of the time a Ford or Mustang only magazine, too) with some super-inflated figures concerning the Mustang, and preach them from the mountain top as if they were gospel.

Fact is a base Corvette will destroy a GT in every way once you're doing anything other than a straight line, except price. But then again, the Vette is so far out of the Mustang's league it isn't funny.

<--- been there, raced that, have the trophies and championships.

[CAP1]

MOTOR TREND.

 Also note that i have previously mentioned i have owned chevys....and that the 400 that came out of my truck went into a friends camaro, and ran 12's all day long. and that the quickest/fastest car i own right now is a chevy.


 sheesh, you guys gotta stop taking things so serious.  

[Grayeagle]

umm .. base vette brand new is ~40k

http://www.kerbeck.com/

430hp, 3200 lbs, a bit more tire on the ground than ..well .. *any* comparable car out there until you get to 6 figures ..

..IMHO beatsa crap outta ownin a 2 door sedan with emblems on it (shelby what?)

-Frank aka GE
just sayin -tm Pasha

[Reaper90]

MOTOR TREND

...is known for exaggerated, inflated numbers and using manufacturer provided "ringers" in their tests.

The next best times I can find for the 5.0 GT by any other mag are a half second slower in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile times than MT's numbers.

However, the true test of a sports car is the road course......

C&D 2011 Lightning Lap

The 2011 Mustang GT gets around VIR 0.9 sec faster than the Camaro SS (3:08.6 vs 3:09.5) although it is 10 seconds slower per lap than the most recently tested Corvette Grand Sport (2:58.5) and 7 sec a lap slower than the most recently tested "base" Corvette with the Z51 package (3:01.2). Heck, the Z51 Corvette beats the Shelby GT500 by almost 3 sec a lap, but for GT500 money you can buy a 2010 Corvette Z06 and whoop the GT500 by over 10 sec a lap. Then there's the ZR1, which NO Ford will ever touch, which strolls around VIR in 2:49.8 -bested only by 2 Moslers (Chevy powered, btw) and a Viper (can't buy one anymore cause nobody wanted 'em) ACR that required race tires to turn that time, unlike the ZR1 which was on streets.

I'll buy you a bottle of whatever you prefer if a Boss 302 in street trim can make up 7 or 10 seconds either the Corvette GS or Z51 at VIR. Heck, the BMW M3 coupe, Lexus IS-F, and Jag XKR all whooped up on that 5.0 Mustang at VIR.  

[CAP1]

...is known for exaggerated, inflated numbers and using manufacturer provided "ringers" in their tests.

The next best times I can find for the 5.0 GT by any other mag are a half second slower in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile times than MT's numbers.

However, the true test of a sports car is the road course......

C&D 2011 Lightning Lap

The 2011 Mustang GT gets around VIR 0.9 sec faster than the Camaro SS (3:08.6 vs 3:09.5) although it is 10 seconds slower per lap than the most recently tested Corvette Grand Sport (2:58.5) and 7 sec a lap slower than the most recently tested "base" Corvette with the Z51 package (3:01.2). Heck, the Z51 Corvette beats the Shelby GT500 by almost 3 sec a lap, but for GT500 money you can buy a 2010 Corvette Z06 and whoop the GT500 by over 10 sec a lap. Then there's the ZR1, which NO Ford will ever touch, which strolls around VIR in 2:49.8 -bested only by 2 Moslers (Chevy powered, btw) and a Viper (can't buy one anymore cause nobody wanted 'em) ACR that required race tires to turn that time, unlike the ZR1 which was on streets.

I'll buy you a bottle of whatever you prefer if a Boss 302 in street trim can make up 7 or 10 seconds either the Corvette GS or Z51 at VIR. Heck, the BMW M3 coupe, Lexus IS-F, and Jag XKR all whooped up on that 5.0 Mustang at VIR.  

 so you're saying that their corvette numbers are exaggerated too?

 i could've sworn i saw a gt500 lap in the mid to high 2's.....whoops...here it is. 2:58.48 

To give a little context to the time… when referencing the best lap times ever recorded on FastestLaps.com, the 2011 Shelby GT500 is in some fairly elite company, and would place directly between the 10th ranked Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with 2:58.2 and the Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport C6 at 2:58.8 seconds. No offense to Gene Martindale, Ford’s vehicle dynamics engineer, but looking at the video it looks as if there might be a little more time to be shaved even still.
and that was poorly driven from what i could see.
 i had seen(and think i posted) the gt lap.

[RTHolmes]

manufacturers dont usually send their slowest test drivers to do timed laps for the media ...

[clerick]

Oh! And Chevy's turn into 20 foot tall robots too! Take THAT blue oval fan bois!

[CAP1]

manufacturers dont usually send their slowest test drivers to do timed laps for the media ...

 i know. i'll be finding what mine can do in the spring. after i do some driving courses. i need them for this car. it's much more capable than i am, as much as i like to brag about my skillz.