Puffy

[Karnak]

If I wanted any of the above I would look for the following game titles, all of which could be played without any other human interaction..

Ack High!

World Of Pilot Wounds

Scalding Heights (radiator leak simulator)

As I said, you are looking for something much simpler, like the original air warrior or the old Lucasarts games.

Personally, I think you are being extremely silly in your tirade against radiator damage and pilot wounds.

[kvuo75]

get rid of all the automatic puffy ack, and make all the guns mannable.

I, like others would rather get shot down by a gun dweeb than my own computer and a random number generator.

[pervert]

As I said, you are looking for something much simpler, like the original air warrior or the old Lucasarts games.

Personally, I think you are being extremely silly in your tirade against radiator damage and pilot wounds.

I'm looking for this game without the nonsense in between, maybe if I quit my job and played 24/7 I could find it. Personally logging on now is more about pot luck regards finding some action, a lot of it is pointless with little personal reward, save talking to my squaddies.

Pilot wounds and rad hits are so easy to inflict its common sense to attempt a HO probably why everyone does it, so therefore it encourages rubbish gameplay.

[wil3ur]

In JUGglers defense...  I was at the same base as him yesterday defending from a CV and the puffy was INSANE!!!  Every time I'd barely hit 3k it'd go "Thwap pop thud" and I'd be bloodied and missing parts.  Add to that then the guy who gets angry you just shot him down, even though he was at 10,000 feet and dove in doing something stupid, who then jumps in a manned 5" and is popping you over the field at 10 feet off the ground because the CV is less than 5K away and it makes CV defense really really lame...

...until they start upping LVT's and PT boats like mad and let me get my name in lights, that was fun.

[JUGgler]

In JUGglers defense...  I was at the same base as him yesterday defending from a CV and the puffy was INSANE!!!  Every time I'd barely hit 3k it'd go "Thwap pop thud" and I'd be bloodied and missing parts.  Add to that then the guy who gets angry you just shot him down, even though he was at 10,000 feet and dove in doing something stupid, who then jumps in a manned 5" and is popping you over the field at 10 feet off the ground because the CV is less than 5K away and it makes CV defense really really lame...

...until they start upping LVT's and PT boats like mad and let me get my name in lights, that was fun.

It was fun!  , and I'm not whining. I just realized as I went vert with a zeke who had position and alt on me, just as I ripped his wing off I was flamed by "BIG PUFF" looked at dash and couldn't have been higher than 3025' when I was thwacked. I thought wow, that is some "quick reacting puff right there! Folks who up from CV should be smarter cause they have a "free climb card" as the folks upping from a land base "within range" of a CV do not!   




JUGgler

[Karnak]

I'm looking for this game without the nonsense in between, maybe if I quit my job and played 24/7 I could find it. Personally logging on now is more about pot luck regards finding some action, a lot of it is pointless with little personal reward, save talking to my squaddies.

Pilot wounds and rad hits are so easy to inflict its common sense to attempt a HO probably why everyone does it, so therefore it encourages rubbish gameplay.

The fact that you consider radiator hits to be nonsense is absurd.

[pervert]

The fact that you consider radiator hits to be nonsense is absurd.

Yak yak yak just statements don't be so lazy explain how I'm wrong, or you just on a justice league tip again?

[mthrockmor]

I spent my time in tanks (M60A3 and M1A1) so I am not an expert in ack. It does seem very overmodeled, I think is the term. When using ranging technique for aiming the first shot is never the most accurate. NEVER! Well, OK unable to discount winning the lottery.

The first shot gets you within hundreds of yards, second shot should be within striking distrance and third shots are for damage. Not to embelish but in the past several months the first indication I have of a CV being in the area is a sudden flash of damage and my oil is all over the windshield. A couple times it was pilot wound. Once my engine was gone. Seriously? The first shot at an airborne target at beyond incon range is right smack on target? That would never happen in real life short of the Aegis air defense system shooting SM-2 missiles. Yet here, hourly affair.

The ack is wwwwaaaayyyyy off.

Another perfect example of this is the rapidly evading fighter getting oiled while a flight of B-24s cruise right through with very minor to no damage.

Fix this and the other issues fix themselves. Oh, I agree with parking a CV off the base. In real life (as Fugitive gets at) CVs attacked from 100+ miles away. The purpose of having an airplane was accurate bombing with the ship way far, far away.

Boo

PS I think the reality of attacking a WW2 US CV battle group is that by 1945 any enemy within 1 mile is dead via hundreds of 40mm and thousand plus 20mm. Thus the Kamikaze attacks. Properly modeling would see damage beyond a couple miles a miracle and within a mile absolute.

[guncrasher]

Which actually brings up another opinion: I think the CV is far too easy to sink. One flight B26's, 8K alt, 8 500lbs bombs... unless there is a strong aerial defense, it's way too simple. Add to that, one is not restricted to taking off from the base that is being shelled.

with a b26, 5.5 alt and you only need 3 eggs, save 1 for the cruiser.  I dont even remember the last time i got shot down in a buff by either manned ack or cv ack.

at the same time i agree with juggler, let the cv stay away from shore so puffy ack doest hit every single airplane upping.  I dont even remember the last time i didnt got shot down in a fighter by puffy ack.


semp

[waystin2]

Face it, making a Task Group stop shooting to suit your play style is just as gamey as driving it near shore. Get in a B-25 and go sink it if you don't like it.

Melvin you obviously don't know me here Sir.  I ain't much of what you would call a furballer.  In fact to some I am a dick because I like to sink them.  In fact I usually start with a B-25 or a PT boat to soften up. Still does not change the fact that the puffy ack should not be so close that it actually caps the field.  It is meant to be a defensive weapon for the CV, not a passive field suppression weapon to cover field attacks.  Know who you are taliking to before you start typing.  

[Melvin]

It is meant to be a defensive weapon for the CV, not a passive field suppression weapon to cover field attacks.

So if the Germans had the option to drive right into Pearl, you don't think they would have? Who are you (or anybody here) to try and dictate to others how to use the weapons at hand?

In fact to some I am a dick

This much I believe.



Look, all of this nonsense about the ship running aground makes no sense at all since the game doesn't model a sea bed.

The solution is not to take away the tools at a player's disposal, but rather to correctly model the world in which we interact. Of course some towns have rather steep underwater drops close to shore.

[mthrockmor]

Germans driving to Pearl Harbor? This sounds like that motivational speech from the cheesy frat movie Animal House.

To my knowledge at no time in the history of naval aviation has any country used a CV for direct fire support on a beach. Not even at Normandy. Maybe the Brits ran one of their CVs up to the beaches at Tripoli or something. Maybe the Japanese somewhere in 1942, some little island. Is anyone aware of CVs ever providing direct fire? And clearly using ones 5", 40mm and 20mm to cap a field falls under the category of 'direct fire.'

Boo

[Melvin]

By that token, does anyone have proof that any manned 5" CV guns actually engaged another enemy CV (of the same class) with said 5" guns?

I say that unless the guns are only allowed to point straight up, we should ban CV gunnery all together.

Germans driving to Pearl Harbor? This sounds like that motivational speech from the cheesy frat movie Animal House.

CHEESY?

You Sir, had better watch your word choices, or I may have to smash your guitar.

[guncrasher]

So if the Germans had the option to drive right into Pearl, you don't think they would have? Who are you (or anybody here) to try and dictate to others how to use the weapons at hand?

This much I believe.



Look, all of this nonsense about the ship running aground makes no sense at all since the game doesn't model a sea bed.

The solution is not to take away the tools at a player's disposal, but rather to correctly model the world in which we interact. Of course some towns have rather steep underwater drops close to shore.

on the first question.  no the german's would not have driven a cv right into pearl harbor.  german cvs were in short supply to begin and it would be a death trap as airplanes would be killed easily taking off.     also notice since the "german's" basically killed all the air power at pearl harbor along with disabling all the cruisers/battleships/etc..   they would still be unable to capture the base as you cant capture a base in the real world with just airplanes.

second question:  you actually gave the answer to your own question.

semp

[Melvin]

on the first question.  no the german's would not have driven a cv right into pearl harbor.  german cvs were in short supply to begin and it would be a death trap as airplanes would be killed easily taking off.     also notice since the "german's" basically killed all the air power at pearl harbor along with disabling all the cruisers/battleships/etc..   they would still be unable to capture the base as you cant capture a base in the real world with just airplanes.

second question:  you actually gave the answer to your own question.

semp

I don't know what the F*#K you just said kid, but you touched my heart.