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Offline Rolex

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 06:13:11 AM »
I would be willing to bet the ones that don't get what Golfer is trying to say, haven't :salute :cheers: :aok been alive as long as he has been flying.......... :aok :salute :cheers:




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Well, you might lose that bet since I believe Golfer is about 30 or so. I have sweaters older than him.

However, I agree with him. A 300-hour, non-military, recreational pilot needs another 200 hours in his logbook just to not be considered a novice anymore.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 06:30:50 AM »
Golfer will never have a career in the diplomatic service but he has a point. There are only two kinds of pilots, those who will do something stupid and those who have, sometimes.... :o ahem, more than once. 'But I learned about flying from that', to coin a phrase.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2011, 08:18:16 AM »
Tupac I happen to know that guy and how he has not killed himself by now is beyond me.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 10:33:30 AM »
28. And like cpxxx says, I'm not known for my diplomatic skills. I'm not one to talk from a great wealth of experience from decades of flying because I don't have either. I just hit 10 years, 4500 hours of which only 500 were spent instructing. Traffic reports, skydivers, charter flying, airline, and corporate flying have paid the bills (the airline just didn't cover all the bills). In fact for the last 3-1/2 years I've been and still am to my knowledge the youngest pilot on a very well known charter certificate. Starting in line service and an online degree program gave me a leg up on those who go to university for their education and ratings by allowing me to do so while working/flying full time.

Now when I do instruction it's usually more advanced training such as basic aerobatic, tailwheel and instrument refresher stuff for weekend warriors and well to do folks who don't have the opportunity to stay proficient in their airplanes as they'd like.

Anyways I write like a crotchety old bastage on occasion but it's only because those darn kids won't get off my lawn...

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 10:35:47 AM »
Posting about seeing a ground loop isn't the act of an arrogant pilot, seeing it happen is kind of a "wow, did you see that event".  Making a comment about him learning to apply crosswind techniques to his landing is a tad cocky, but to be honest it is more or less human nature.

Rather for someone to sit on this board and act like they are the ultimate authority on aviation is in my mind the height of arrogance.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 10:43:12 AM »

Rather for someone to sit on this board and act like they are the ultimate authority on aviation is in my mind the height of arrogance.

Yawn. (swims away)

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 03:17:38 PM »
Yawn. (swims away)

No offense Golfer, but did you get your snickers today?  You're acting quite the diva.  Something wrong?  'Cause you seem on edge.  Seriously.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 03:32:05 PM »
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 03:34:37 PM »
Well, you might lose that bet since I believe Golfer is about 30 or so. I have sweaters older than him.

However, I agree with him. A 300-hour, non-military, recreational pilot needs another 200 hours in his logbook just to not be considered a novice anymore.

My bad, thought he was older for some reason :headscratch:    :salute :salute




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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 04:14:35 PM »
No offense Golfer, but did you get your snickers today?  You're acting quite the diva.  Something wrong?  'Cause you seem on edge.  Seriously.

History with Dago, he's trolling and I'm not biting.

The rest I'll attribute to holiday cheer. I've had a few conversations with Tupac over the last few weeks and it's best I check out. Maybe it's generational.  Maybe it's because I see some of the things if go back and change about myself when I was one of those teenage wonder kids.  A kid who doesn't see the forest through the trees saying something snarky like that just rubbed me the wrong way.

Maybe its perspective.  I get a chance to see some real good ones in high school program earning them college credit and upon completion their Airframe certificate. They work hard, come from nothing and get something in return. Tupac has gone from someone worth rooting to a kid seeking attention. It's been a little while in the making and maybe it just was one face palm too many.

I'm sure he's quite capable but after a few of the conversations off the board we've had I guess it's time to let him learn for himself. Been there, didn't listen, done that.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 04:22:17 PM »
Golfer,
I read Tupac's post and did not find it to be condescending.  In my opinion, he was not acting like a "know-it-all" or anything else for that matter, he was just sharing an observation of something that happened followed up by the guys corrective measures. 

Considering your past with "know-it-all" statements in aviation, I think it would behoove you to simply let Tupac be and perhaps offer up an apology for something that you took out of context.

Have a good day.   :)
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 04:34:18 PM »
Golfer,
I read Tupac's post and did not find it to be condescending.  In my opinion, he was not acting like a "know-it-all" or anything else for that matter, he was just sharing an observation of something that happened followed up by the guys corrective measures. 

Considering your past with "know-it-all" statements in aviation, I think it would behoove you to simply let Tupac be and perhaps offer up an apology for something that you took out of context.

Have a good day.   :)

You and I both know a guy in a Stearman isn't seeing a crosswind for the first time. Suggesting he "learned something" after ending up in the mud, while likely not untrue, that something being as trivial as applying crosswind correction or basic control of the airplane ain't it. Especially from the perspective of Tupac in his 172.

Or that his Facebook status had him proclaiming himself the "master of crosswind landings..."

Like I said. Perspective and cumulative eye rolls finally added up.

Not sorry.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2011, 04:41:57 PM »
Gravity never sleeps.


Make the right choice and dont fly.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2011, 04:43:55 PM »
Golfer,
I am finding that I lean a bit more towards the "benefit of the doubt" as I get older as opposed to being a "know-it-all" when I was younger.  It's funny how your parents always seem to be right and it takes some of us (me especially) a longer time then the others to figure that out.
Either way, I did not have the benefit of your other observations.

Hope you had a Merry Christmas and have a Happy and Safe New Year.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2011, 04:56:07 PM »
Same to you Bodhi. Safety, prosperity and good health to you and yours.

(And everyone else and everyone else's)

Now it's time for a snickers and some (correction) rum and grass skirt chicks.
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