Piper L-4 Grasshopper

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  Seadog36

[oakranger]

It's really very simple my fellow Jug enthusiast:

The D-25 was a very minor production block, with only 340 examples built. D22/23's had 2,300 examples built, D15-D20 another 3,200 built. So 5,500 P-47Ds, or 45% of all 12,000 D variants built were razorbacks with under wing hard points, and there is not a single example in the game. The D-11 is supposed to stand in for 2/3rds of all P-47s built from late 1942 through mid 1944 including the C. The last 1/3 of Thunderbolt production which only saw service for one year, from mid 44-mid 45 is covered by D-25s, D-40s, Ms and Ns. The game is heavily skewed to a small number of late models.

Furthermore, nearly half the D-11 skins in the game belong to late model razorbacks, so without seriously modifying an air frame or performance parameters, a more relevant late model razorback could be added with ready made skins and allow other skins waiting in the que to be introduced.

As the most produced variant of the most produced US fighter, razorback P47s were the backbone of nearly every USAAF fighter group at one point in 1943 and early 1944 and saw active service up to V-E day in Germany and V-J day in the Philippians primarily in the attack role~ the game could and should easily reflect it.

Vary good of posting that strong argument.   

[MK-84]

Thought this was a post about a Piper L-4, not a P47?

Clearly I'm wrong, but if it was!...I would say, lets find out how the storch's popularity is.

I wouldnt hold your breath though, the  closest axis equivilant to the C47 , the Ju52 isnt here.  I can not imagine a spotter aircraft being duplicated unless it is significantly different (and people use the original, I think they will though)

It just seems this is more of the idea of "I like allied iron as opposed to axis"  which is not wrong, but this is asking to duplicate an aircraft that is essentially pathetic even compared with our WW1 aircraft.  (which I did try in beta!)

edit: and by duplicate, there isn't a noticeable difference between pathetic performance, or different pathetic performance

[Karnak]

It's really very simple my fellow Jug enthusiast:

The D-25 was a very minor production block, with only 340 examples built. D22/23's had 2,300 examples built, D15-D20 another 3,200 built. So 5,500 P-47Ds, or 45% of all 12,000 D variants built were razorbacks with under wing hard points, and there is not a single example in the game. The D-11 is supposed to stand in for 2/3rds of all P-47s built from late 1942 through mid 1944 including the C. The last 1/3 of Thunderbolt production which only saw service for one year, from mid 44-mid 45 is covered by D-25s, D-40s, Ms and Ns. The game is heavily skewed to a small number of late models.

Furthermore, nearly half the D-11 skins in the game belong to late model razorbacks, so without seriously modifying an air frame or performance parameters, a more relevant late model razorback could be added with ready made skins and allow other skins waiting in the que to be introduced.

As the most produced variant of the most produced US fighter, razorback P47s were the backbone of nearly every USAAF fighter group at one point in 1943 and early 1944 and saw active service up to V-E day in Germany and V-J day in the Philippians primarily in the attack role~ the game could and should easily reflect it.

That would have been a good argument for adding the D15-D20 or D22/23 instead of adding the D25.  Once the D25 was added it became moot as that performance and capability were covered.

If the Spitfire Mk XVI had been added as a low back Spitfire, would we have a justified need for a Spitfire LF.Mk IX that had the same performance?  I can't see that as a valid need.