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Offline MaSonZ

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odd question....
« on: January 07, 2012, 11:58:49 AM »
at work this morning, and while ridin with the boss man to the job, we're listening to talk radio. a man that was 10 or 11 when he saw this (WWII) asked a question: When he was a young boy he saw the troops pull into the lumber yards, fill up 55 gallon drums with saw dust and / or wood chips, and an air duct for the fire inside the drums. He said it appeared as if the vehicles were running off the woodchips and saw dust, as there was no other way of getting fuel into the vehicles. if this is the case, how would it work? the only thing I can think is the unburned gasses from the wood chips were sent through a line, much like a fuel line, into the combustion chambers where the spark plugs ignited the unburned gasses. they were normal internal combustion engines and not diesels, which is what brings me to think its the unburned gasses. thoughts?
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 12:06:19 PM »
Possibly something simmilar to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P160KT_MPB0
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 12:09:06 PM »
I would say, having heard it on the radio I saw no pictures. the idea would have been the same, but with WWII technology. What would something of that nature require? would it be economically worth it? what about financially?
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 12:10:12 PM »
Wood gasification.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/1981-05-01/Wood-Gas-Truck.aspx

I had a classmate in college that was trying to build one of these units to run an electric generator for powering his house. Not sure if he ever succeeded or not.


Here's a good one for you.

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 12:15:07 PM »
I watched a show on discovery on it.  As I recall, it takes some really fine tuning to get the vehicle to run, a lot of extra weight on the vehicle for the equipment, and has a solid waste component to the process.  It's doable, but not practical... unless you're fighting a war where every drop of gasoline and oil is needed elsewhere, then it might make sense to have some domestic units running an alternative fuel.
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 12:21:28 PM »
I watched a show on discovery on it.  As I recall, it takes some really fine tuning to get the vehicle to run, a lot of extra weight on the vehicle for the equipment, and has a solid waste component to the process.  It's doable, but not practical... unless you're fighting a war where every drop of gasoline and oil is needed elsewhere, then it might make sense to have some domestic units running an alternative fuel.
this was going to be my next question after reading the article MElvin posted. It seems like a lot more work then its worth to get it set up and running properly. having to readjust the throttle body, the carburetor and set of the monster machine in the back of a vehicle seems impractical unless, as you said, your in a war where every drop of oil and gas count. Thinking about this, and the current gas prices, how feasible would it be the military to invest in an alternative to using fuel to power the humvees, supply trucks, and tanks? I know the Abrams can run on many types of different furl (such as jet fuel, ethanol and diesel), but that still diminishes to the amount of fuel available to the citizens back here. If the military could do something of this nature without too many downfalls to it, what would that do to our current fuel prices?
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 12:27:07 PM »
Check out "biomass gasification".

We just had a couple plants open near here. They are taking all of the bark, chips and dust from the local mills for use in the plants. I think that this technology would be better suited for use on a large scale, while leaving the fossil fuels to feed the war machines.

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Re: odd question....
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 01:11:33 PM »
Check out "biomass gasification".

We just had a couple plants open near here. They are taking all of the bark, chips and dust from the local mills for use in the plants. I think that this technology would be better suited for use on a large scale, while leaving the fossil fuels to feed the war machines.

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that is assuming the war machines are using less fossil fuels a year then the multitudes of civilians.
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Re: odd question....
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 01:17:02 PM »
If it comes down to driving my truck or learning to speak Chinese, I'll walk.

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Re: odd question....
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2012, 02:31:27 AM »
Don't worry Bill, we'll protect you from the Chinese



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