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Offline cobia38

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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2012, 11:22:33 AM »
Hmmm.  Someone that thought he was serious.

  you think  ;)


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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2012, 11:22:51 AM »
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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2012, 02:15:19 PM »
Tactical treats  :rofl

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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2012, 02:30:59 PM »
I couldn't watch anymore when he couldn't pronounce Leupold...   :bhead 


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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2012, 02:33:47 PM »
I couldn't watch anymore when he couldn't pronounce Leupold...   :bhead 



That's the point of the humor.

Same with Surefire, EOTech, etc. Its a video needling at the armchair heroes who occupy various tacti-cool gun forums. And he did a good job, IMO.

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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2012, 06:17:43 PM »
Remington .35 Pump

Open sights

Target < 500 yds

End of story

Scopes are for those that cannot shoot without someone holding their hand...

Or long range shooters.
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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2012, 06:55:28 PM »
Or competition shooting, or you know, when the target shoots back.  Especially the second one.

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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2012, 07:53:04 PM »
Or competition shooting, or you know, when the target shoots back.  Especially the second one.

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Open irons will take an infinite amount of abuse when compared to a scope.  If not, my Uncle would have issued me one with my M-16.

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You have not the slightest clue what shooting means when the target is shooting back.  :aok
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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2012, 09:20:24 PM »
Open irons will take an infinite amount of abuse when compared to a scope.  If not, my Uncle would have issued me one with my M-16.

PS Junior:

You have not the slightest clue what shooting means when the target is shooting back.  :aok

Though I've never had to bust a cap into someone, I do know that after around 600m it's darn near impossible to make out a standing sillouhette, and even harder when iron sights get in the way.  Unless you're Superman, at those ranges a scope IS necessary.  In addition, without any illumination near the target (night or a dark room) especially if there is light near YOU, a night vision scope or at least illuminated sights are necessary.  When reaction times are a factor (such as in urban warfare) aligning one's iron sights will take more time and as a result of closing one eye, give less peripheral vision.  Though iron sights are tougher than scopes, an AK-pattern rifle is tougher than an AR-15 pattern rifle, but the US Army still uses it.  If the Army, which you cited as a source for credible armament information (your uncle was issued an M-16) then in both the cases of the AR-15 pattern rifle and the scope one can argue that toughness can be traded for qualities such as accuracy and rate of fire.  Though scopes have their imperfections, when used properly they are an excellent tool, just like iron sights.

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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2012, 11:31:20 PM »
Though I've never had to bust a cap into someone, I do know that after around 600m it's darn near impossible to make out a standing sillouhette, and even harder when iron sights get in the way.  Unless you're Superman, at those ranges a scope IS necessary.  In addition, without any illumination near the target (night or a dark room) especially if there is light near YOU, a night vision scope or at least illuminated sights are necessary.  When reaction times are a factor (such as in urban warfare) aligning one's iron sights will take more time and as a result of closing one eye, give less peripheral vision.  Though iron sights are tougher than scopes, an AK-pattern rifle is tougher than an AR-15 pattern rifle, but the US Army still uses it.  If the Army, which you cited as a source for credible armament information (your uncle was issued an M-16) then in both the cases of the AR-15 pattern rifle and the scope one can argue that toughness can be traded for qualities such as accuracy and rate of fire.  Though scopes have their imperfections, when used properly they are an excellent tool, just like iron sights.

I've never heard our service men and women, nor friends/acquaintances who have 'been there', refer to shooting an enemy as "bust(ing) a cap into someone."  <smack>



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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2012, 12:05:28 AM »
I can bust sporting clays sitting on a birm at 200 yards with my M39. Open sights for life.
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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2012, 12:08:01 AM »
And by "Iron sights for life" I mean in a zombie apocalypse situation. I shoot my .22 with a scope and my 30/06
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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2012, 12:11:06 AM »
Though I've never had to bust a cap into someone, I do know that after around 600m it's darn near impossible to make out a standing sillouhette, and even harder when iron sights get in the way.  Unless you're Superman, at those ranges a scope IS necessary.  In addition, without any illumination near the target (night or a dark room) especially if there is light near YOU, a night vision scope or at least illuminated sights are necessary.  When reaction times are a factor (such as in urban warfare) aligning one's iron sights will take more time and as a result of closing one eye, give less peripheral vision.  Though iron sights are tougher than scopes, an AK-pattern rifle is tougher than an AR-15 pattern rifle, but the US Army still uses it.  If the Army, which you cited as a source for credible armament information (your uncle was issued an M-16) then in both the cases of the AR-15 pattern rifle and the scope one can argue that toughness can be traded for qualities such as accuracy and rate of fire.  Though scopes have their imperfections, when used properly they are an excellent tool, just like iron sights.

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Judging by many of the photos I've seen, it seems many soldiers are carrying some kind of optics on their rifles.  I believe the standard issue is a Trijicon ACOG, and I believe that's a 4x power.  

Being able to shoot with iron sights is very important, but optics have their place.
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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2012, 03:02:18 AM »
Remington .35 Pump

Open sights

Target < 500 yds

End of story

Scopes are for those that cannot shoot without someone holding their hand...

Scopes are for those of us who prefer a single shot clean kill that lets us recover the most meat possible.


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Re: Most tactical AR15 EVER!!
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2012, 12:13:29 PM »
Dont wanna have a "tactical shadow"  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl