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Offline cpxxx

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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2012, 08:59:55 AM »
However, the whole entire case has a 0.00000001% chance of ever happening.

1. BOTH pilot and co-pilot passing out is very unlikely.
2. Auto pilot means you basically listen to the controller, turn a few knobs, and let the plane land itself until the very last stretch, then it's a matter of pointing the plane in the right direction, and hitting the brakes. You're still a hero, but a hero who can listen to instructions, not a hero who took the stick and landed using his skill.  :airplane:
LOL, you make it seem easy. It makes you wonder why they bother going to all that trouble to train pilots. It really isn't as simple as that. First off the controller wouldn't know how to tell you to fly the aircraft. It would need a rated pilot. He would need to get you descended and lined up with the airport, get you to set up for descent and landing with no mistakes. Too high a rate of descent you crash short of the runway, too low and you miss the airport and hit past the runway. Any confusion of ambiguity or panic will result in disorientation or loss of control. Even in perfect conditions it would be very hard to pull off without killing everyone on board. If you get it down safely, you would be hero alright.

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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2012, 09:33:15 AM »
  Flying a responsive fighter is totally different from a fully loaded Jetliner. More like flying the B-29 in game. Heavy, slow to respond, and hopefully burnt off most of the fuel load.
  If your life depended on a Gamer with no flight experience, assume the position, Head between legs......KYAG.

  You may need your skills though if these boys are your pilots............

 
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2012, 10:02:17 AM »
I had a dream last night about never-ending bacon. Best dream ever.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2012, 10:43:13 AM »
If you end up touching down long or touching down too fast you can run out of runway and damage/destroy the plane and property. So yes the autopilot will make it significantly easier for you to do it but without autoland some skill will still be required.

Since were discussing such a small possibility there is the same chance the autopilot will not work either...

I wouldn't care at all about the aircraft. My main focus would be to get it down safely enough to where the passengers and myself could walk away relatively unharmed. If that means overshooting a runway and breaking the plane, so be it.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2012, 12:16:24 PM »
They have that full motion simulator they did on mythbusters

That's not just NASA. I done some training with the USAF on a C-17A Class D sim (highest classification of sims possible) and most major airlines have them for all their aircraft.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2012, 12:21:31 PM »
LOL, you make it seem easy. It makes you wonder why they bother going to all that trouble to train pilots. It really isn't as simple as that. First off the controller wouldn't know how to tell you to fly the aircraft. It would need a rated pilot. He would need to get you descended and lined up with the airport, get you to set up for descent and landing with no mistakes. Too high a rate of descent you crash short of the runway, too low and you miss the airport and hit past the runway. Any confusion of ambiguity or panic will result in disorientation or loss of control. Even in perfect conditions it would be very hard to pull off without killing everyone on board. If you get it down safely, you would be hero alright.

Most good autopilots can fly the whole approach for you. All you'll need is someone on the ground to explain you how to program the autopilot. In case of an emergency the'd find someone who can do that.
But your right it's still not as easy as he explained it.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2012, 02:59:37 PM »
That's not just NASA. I done some training with the USAF on a C-17A Class D sim (highest classification of sims possible) and most major airlines have them for all their aircraft.
How would a person like me get a shot at one of those? if it can happen at all?
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2012, 03:11:23 PM »
How would a person like me get a shot at one of those? if it can happen at all?

Know the right people
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2012, 03:19:08 PM »
How would a person like me get a shot at one of those? if it can happen at all?

Know the right people

That, or work for the right people/organization.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2012, 03:28:08 PM »
hmm, getting a shot at a true legit sim has been my dream for nearly 6 years now
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2012, 03:32:11 PM »
hmm, getting a shot at a true legit sim has been my dream for nearly 6 years now

Why dont you spend $80 and fly in a real plane instead of a sim?
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2012, 03:35:25 PM »
Technically I'm sure somehow you could rent a class D sim with an IP but a real plane would be significantly cheaper.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2012, 03:38:22 PM »
My dads grandfather runs a air field in Ohio, he used to own  a DC-3, or the C47 and did maintenance on planes, he took me up in a single engine and let me at the controls for a few minutes, greatest feeling in the world I have to admit.

There's an Air field a few miles away from me, but i've never been past the gate cause my dad says its pointless to go here  :mad:
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2012, 05:17:30 AM »
Surely there's places all around the US where you can pay to 'fly' full size simulators? Ok maybe not full motion class D but the real deal nonetheless.

There's several here in Ireland. There's one in my town, 737 NG it's not full motion yet. http://www.eirsim.com/

There's others, one in Shannon an hour's drive away another 737 NG.  http://www.atlanticairventure.com/  They even offer the chance to fly a full flight, take off to landing.

Another in Dublin which I had a free go at because I know the right people. http://www.simtech.ie/ 

There's even a 747-400 simulator available. All within 2 hours drive.

There must be a bunch of similar simulators for rent in the USA. If not there must be a gap in the market!

You could probably ask them to set it up so you were on your own.
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Re: Has anybody else ever dreamed of this.
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2012, 05:49:06 AM »
Mythbusters sorta did it :noid