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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2012, 12:28:41 AM »
Just like I don't believe experts who say they found evidence of recent liquid water on Mars.

Curious as to why you don't believe them.

I'm not a scientist, ( I do watch NOVA  ;) ) but I am kind of a space junkie guy, and the evidence that was found with Spirit and Opportunity is very conclusive.  The concretions they found can only form in the presence of liquid water on Earth, common sense says they formed the same way on Mars.  NASA, JPL and hundreds of university scientists who have seen the data from the rovers agree.  Not to mention the actual photos of ice sublimating they have from another probe.  It is likely that Mars has polar ice caps not that far under the red dirt.

Personally I'm excited for what the next rover named Curiosity will find...  fossils perhaps. 

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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2012, 01:02:40 AM »
isn't it 30 seconds according to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2012, 06:56:48 PM »
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2012, 09:07:10 PM »
Personally I'm excited for what the next rover named Curiosity will find...  fossils perhaps.  

Oh man, even microbial fossils and I would be ecstatic. I just know they gotta be there. We Earthlings can't be that lucky.
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2012, 09:51:29 PM »
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2012, 10:00:49 PM »
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2012, 09:01:18 AM »
60 secs... i see no point in prolonging the agony.  plus i expelled my breath and I'm not as fat as most of you.  :noid
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2012, 06:06:20 PM »
1 minute and 29 seconds
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2012, 06:14:10 PM »
60 seconds

which is about 60 seconds longer then I'd want to
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2012, 10:32:38 PM »

Chemistry does not show that people explode in a vacuum..  And it wouldn't have to do with Chemistry, it'd be physics in the first place..  You're basing that off of movies like Outland which make it gory for entertainment purposes..  And yes, liquid water can exist on Mars under certain conditions..  Perhaps you do not read enough..   :rolleyes:

They are basing their claims off of incidents like this...  This guy was exposed to vacuum after a hose from his suit broke loose..  He didn't explode..  He survived...  And lived to tell about how he could feel the saliva boiling off of his tongue..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO8L9tKR4CY

So, you go to Purdue?  Apparently you're not paying attention in school there..  Purdue is well known for making astronauts... Shame on you...

It is chemistry, although chemistry and physics are closely related in situations such as this, so it may depend on your point of view.  Anyways, with regards to Mars, the chemistry of water does not permit it to exist in liquid form given the conditions of temperature and pressure that exist on Mars.  And I never took a chemistry class at Purdue, I scored high enough on the AP exam to test out of it.  Blame my high school.

http://www.google.com/search?q=triple+point+of+water&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=AGn&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_mwKT-GPLMTpsQLbpr2QCg&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1105&bih=854

Here's specifically what I don't believe:  http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast29jun_1m  That little scrape into the liquid phase.  Gimme a break, they are reaching in order to get funding.
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2012, 01:04:36 PM »
It is chemistry, although chemistry and physics are closely related in situations such as this, so it may depend on your point of view.  Anyways, with regards to Mars, the chemistry of water does not permit it to exist in liquid form given the conditions of temperature and pressure that exist on Mars.  And I never took a chemistry class at Purdue, I scored high enough on the AP exam to test out of it.  Blame my high school.

http://www.google.com/search?q=triple+point+of+water&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=AGn&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_mwKT-GPLMTpsQLbpr2QCg&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1105&bih=854

Here's specifically what I don't believe:  http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast29jun_1m  That little scrape into the liquid phase.  Gimme a break, they are reaching in order to get funding.


You left out a major factor as to how liquid water can exist on Mars..  Salinity....  You are awesome that water is water is water is water, and it in fact is not.... 
I guess you shouldn't have skipped those chemistry classes... 
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2012, 04:56:18 PM »
You left out a major factor as to how liquid water can exist on Mars..  Salinity....  You are awesome that water is water is water is water, and it in fact is not....  
I guess you shouldn't have skipped those chemistry classes...

They had no bearing on my major, then or current, and they have little bearing on my life now other than fending off a forum troll.  So I dispute your assertion that I shouldn't have tested out of (I didn't skip anything) chemistry.

That said, the idea that liquid brine might exist on the surface of Mars today is more realistic than what we earthlings think of when someone says the word "water".  Since you're too lazy to provide a link to back up your claims, I'll do it for you: http://earthsky.org/space/mars-might-have-flowing-salty-water-on-its-surface .  

As an aside, my knowledge of high school chemistry is just fine for this, I simply wasn't aware that Mars was so salty.  I never saw that mentioned until I just now googled for the phrase "salinity of water on mars".  And I still require far more evidence, such as a pool of evaporated brine at the bottom of a depression, before I'm willing to believe.  Its far more likely that the terrain features they described are made by briny glaciers than briny liquid.

Edit:  Or even more likely than all other scenarios... its still all just made by wind erosion.
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2012, 09:22:25 PM »
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Re: How long can you survive in the vacuum of space?
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »
I survived in Oklahoma for a couple hours. The vacuum of space doesn't scare me.
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