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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2012, 12:31:47 PM »
I could think to buy a more performance pc, if AH bill was half time
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2012, 12:33:29 PM »
you obviously missed when I said I have all those games and played them all. :rolleyes:


I never said I wouldn't be OK with updated graphics....

what I was basically saying is stop crying or go play those games if you like them so much. :aok


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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2012, 01:55:38 PM »
You'll be very surprised at how good Aces High would look with post processing effects - HDR, bloom, dynamic exposure, volumetric light scattering (god rays), screen space ambient occlusion.

Just adding a few of the above would transform the way Aces High looks.

I'm not so sure.  There are conscious design decisions that limit the eye candy: there are only 12 ground textures allowed per terrain and the grid for elevation, i.e. the grid that defines the terrain shape, is purposely coarse at 1/2 mile.  That makes the terrain look very polygonal.  But those decisions were made to optimize terrain download time: remember when there is a new terrain, or terrain mod, in AH the automatic update is so fast, a matter of only seconds, that it is pretty much unnoticeable.  I personally would prefer, say, 256 ground textures and a elevation map spatial resolution of 165 ft, but if I got my wish everyone would immediately cancel as it would take hours to download a terrain update. 

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2012, 02:01:01 PM »
You should see my graphic settings, its stuck around 1999 or 2000 - LOL I refuse to take screenshots mainly because of this.

Can't wait to see what Aces High actually looks like in a few weeks.
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2012, 03:02:44 PM »
TO theose who thing AH bbs az spelcheeker: :bolt:
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2012, 03:41:30 PM »
I'm not so sure.  There are conscious design decisions that limit the eye candy: there are only 12 ground textures allowed per terrain and the grid for elevation, i.e. the grid that defines the terrain shape, is purposely coarse at 1/2 mile.  That makes the terrain look very polygonal.  But those decisions were made to optimize terrain download time: remember when there is a new terrain, or terrain mod, in AH the automatic update is so fast, a matter of only seconds, that it is pretty much unnoticeable.  I personally would prefer, say, 256 ground textures and a elevation map spatial resolution of 165 ft, but if I got my wish everyone would immediately cancel as it would take hours to download a terrain update. 

If this is truly the reason why AH terrain is the way it is, I suggest this...

When a new map, with the fancy kick butt graphics is available, have it auto download in the same manner that skins do now.  Leave it in the system like that for a couple weeks and announce the crap out of it so everyone knows.  Most active players will have it auto downloaded long before it is put into play.

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2012, 03:54:15 PM »
  Many objects were improved over the years and that's great but....

       Fix The Sun!  :furious

   ...or don't have a setting or rising Sun. Just got killed by a tank hiding in it's awesome light  :O as it shone through mountain!

       
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2012, 04:03:25 PM »


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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2012, 05:36:52 PM »
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2012, 06:00:01 PM »
What I see in AH is a game almost completely focused on aerial combat, or Air Combat Maneuvering (ACM). That is... where is the other guy in relation to you and how do you get guns on him? All these other games are all about simulating and visually representing a particular era the combat of that era and to a limited degree, Wings of Prey & Cliffs of Dover is WW2... Rise of Flight is WWI. So they limit themselves and can create this fantastic scenery after years of development (which is not continuous development) and give you something that simulate that particular niche of the genre. If you can't recognize what the niche is that HTC has ventured into and expanded upon since release, well then you don't understand what Aces High is in the first place. Sure... nothing wrong with better graphics, I'm all for it. But please look at what AH has that NONE of these other games have. Aces High has struck a golden combination of smooth gameplay supporting hundreds of people, visuals, continuous development, historical accuracy and community contact. WHAT other game HAS this?

Like I said, nothing wrong with wanting better graphics but... no reason to whine or call Aces High a bad game. Because Aces High is in a class of its own if get down to listing all the features.
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2012, 07:41:41 PM »

Like I said, nothing wrong with wanting better graphics but... no reason to whine or call Aces High a bad game. Because Aces High is in a class of its own if get down to listing all the features.

None of us says AH is bad, hell, we all play it. We're just dreaming about future eye candy and "what ifs?"
HTC made a great game, could it be better? Yes. There's always room for improvement and HTC continues to work at it.  :cheers:

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2012, 08:20:41 PM »

       Fix The Sun!  :furious
       
yes the sun could use one nice fix together with the light effects, depending on which direction you look the ligh is different  :uhoh
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2012, 08:21:34 PM »
Good enough for the girls I go out with.

Keep up the good work HTC
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2012, 09:24:47 PM »
None of us says AH is bad, hell, we all play it. We're just dreaming about future eye candy and "what ifs?"
HTC made a great game, could it be better? Yes. There's always room for improvement and HTC continues to work at it.  :cheers:

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2012, 11:36:05 PM »
one of the last "Coral Sea" scenario  terrain / weather and overall arena settings and game play was spectacular ,  there was also a few other scenarios that looked visually awesome......

compared to your everyday Main Arena play........  

I see people keep posting that Aces High is using an old dated graphics engine, this just isn't the case...... as Skuzzy posted in another thread and confirmed what I had posted in an earlier post..... Skuzzy posted that Aces High / HTC is currently on their 3rd FM and Graphics engine at this time........

if HTC turned it up full bore, I would assume it would knock probably 3/4's of the users out of being able to play the game online......

we have had clouds, weather along with other things...... it is the customers / players  who are being thought about the most in regards to this....... in the game/graphics engine before the last one which couldn't come close to this 3rd generation engine, we had clouds we could fly through & hide in...... if ircc it even seemed like we had "weather" to a degree, looked like it anyways.......

I like to think my PC is near the top for  a top gaming rig....... if I max everything out and use 1920 x 1200 screen res, I can choke my system down to an average 29 to 30 FPS or there abouts in that new up and coming game made by the same people who made Wings Of Prey........ going by the 3d alpha benchmark....... I posted a handful of results over on their forum in that particular thread.......

What I see in AH is a game almost completely focused on aerial combat, or Air Combat Maneuvering (ACM). That is... where is the other guy in relation to you and how do you get guns on him? All these other games are all about simulating and visually representing a particular era the combat of that era and to a limited degree, Wings of Prey & Cliffs of Dover is WW2... Rise of Flight is WWI. So they limit themselves and can create this fantastic scenery after years of development (which is not continuous development) and give you something that simulate that particular niche of the genre. If you can't recognize what the niche is that HTC has ventured into and expanded upon since release, well then you don't understand what Aces High is in the first place. Sure... nothing wrong with better graphics, I'm all for it. But please look at what AH has that NONE of these other games have. Aces High has struck a golden combination of smooth gameplay supporting hundreds of people, visuals, continuous development, historical accuracy and community contact. WHAT other game HAS this?

Like I said, nothing wrong with wanting better graphics but... no reason to whine or call Aces High a bad game. Because Aces High is in a class of its own if get down to listing all the features.

nice post   33Vortex


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