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Offline SunBat

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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #105 on: January 23, 2012, 12:08:04 PM »
go to the DA.

How 'bout you go to Midwar or Early war where you can find others of your ilk? 
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2012, 12:49:57 PM »
I have been flying in AH since tour 35. What exactly is a "seasoned pilot". If it is someone that has been around for awhile, then yes, i think i would be.

That would be my definition, and you would qualify for it.  I asked the question because someone who's been around for that long should even, by accident, have had substantial amounts of air combat experience.  I'd expect a person flying for almost a decade to have a basic understanding and be able to handle himself competently in a fight.  I suspect you can FWIW, even if you choose not to.

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If it is someone that must prove to everyone else how great they are and how much skill they have and how others dont have skill, then no, i am not a "seasoned pilot". I don't think you should have to prove yourself worthy to be consider one. But others of the forum see otherwise. So no, i am not a "seasoned pilot".

No, that's not my definition.  My point is that you and others in this thread play an entirely different game.  You're getting defensive because they won't acknowledge the legitimacy of their play style, while at the same time you brush them off and tell them to go to the DA.  Do you really care what the Muppets or Top Gun have to say about the game you play?  If not, then why even bother defending it to them?  It's almost like two people arguing about the greatness of chess versus checkers.

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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2012, 12:51:13 PM »
you squad guys are scarier then soccer hooligans
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2012, 01:00:52 PM »
That would be my definition, and you would qualify for it.  I asked the question because someone who's been around for that long should even, by accident, have had substantial amounts of air combat experience.  I'd expect a person flying for almost a decade to have a basic understanding and be able to handle himself competently in a fight.  I suspect you can FWIW, even if you choose not to.

No, that's not my definition.  My point is that you and others in this thread play an entirely different game.  You're getting defensive because they won't acknowledge the legitimacy of their play style, while at the same time you brush them off and tell them to go to the DA.  Do you really care what the Muppets or Top Gun have to say about the game you play?  If not, then why even bother defending it to them?  It's almost like two people arguing about the greatness of chess versus checkers.

pfffffft everyone knows chess beats checkers.
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #109 on: January 23, 2012, 01:01:58 PM »
That would be my definition, and you would qualify for it.  I asked the question because someone who's been around for that long should even, by accident, have had substantial amounts of air combat experience.  I'd expect a person flying for almost a decade to have a basic understanding and be able to handle himself competently in a fight.  I suspect you can FWIW, even if you choose not to.

No, that's not my definition.  My point is that you and others in this thread play an entirely different game.  You're getting defensive because they won't acknowledge the legitimacy of their play style, while at the same time you brush them off and tell them to go to the DA.  Do you really care what the Muppets or Top Gun have to say about the game you play?  If not, then why even bother defending it to them?  It's almost like two people arguing about the greatness of chess versus checkers.

Checkers are for the unskilled.

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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2012, 02:39:16 PM »
We take bases. We don't furball.
Here is your answer... :airplane:
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2012, 03:32:55 PM »
I asked the question because someone who's been around for that long should even, by accident, have had substantial amounts of air combat experience. 

 :lol


I think the idea of the ack staying down is good for one reason. I hate it when I fly from an adjacent base to my horde infested base with the idea of defending only to lose the base just as I get there and see ten enemies immediately dive down and land never to return. Without the insta-ack I could have vulched half of them and maybe they would be forced to fight.
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2012, 05:27:24 PM »
Why do we care so much what other people do again?

I'm starting to wonder if losing a base or seven to a horde is even that big of a problem.  Big whoop, the map changes... :headscratch:

Is it really believed that hordes ruin the game?
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2012, 05:35:55 PM »
Checkers are for the unskilled.



Hoards are for the unskilled.
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #114 on: January 23, 2012, 05:42:10 PM »
:lol


I think the idea of the ack staying down is good for one reason. I hate it when I fly from an adjacent base to my horde infested base with the idea of defending only to lose the base just as I get there and see ten enemies immediately dive down and land never to return. Without the insta-ack I could have vulched half of them and maybe they would be forced to fight.

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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2012, 05:52:28 PM »
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Btw, I'll cut chu fools with my broken bottle.

Just sayin'....
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #116 on: January 23, 2012, 06:17:36 PM »
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Btw, I'll cut chu fools with my broken bottle.

Just sayin'....

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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #117 on: January 23, 2012, 07:47:49 PM »
Not necessarily.  I see the vguys just being "efficient".  There is no incentive to stick around to defend a base that defends itself the instant you capture it.

Sure there is, one plane can de-ack and retake an otherwise already destroyed town.  I did it myself a couple times this weekend at A199....  that map is still up, ain't it?  :devil
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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #118 on: January 23, 2012, 09:35:17 PM »
Sure there is, one plane can de-ack and retake an otherwise already destroyed town.  I did it myself a couple times this weekend at A199....  that map is still up, ain't it?  :devil

I think a base could even be taken with 8 players max. 3 to cap base, 3 to whack town, 1 goon/m3 and one cover for goon/m3.  I think there's a wish I haven't really seen - mission caps?  Too many ways around it I suppose.

In any case, any base ops with more than 20 poepl... err lemmings... is way overkill imho. I see no sense of strategy (or tactics for that matter)... I can recall when there would be interdiction missions toward nearby bases (also prepping them for the next assault) and you would see goons getting better escorting (now I rarely see a goon properly escorted - merely flying under the lemming trail.) Neither do I really see buffs being escorted properly (if at all.)

What I now see more of, that makes me :oldrolleyes are two things I kind of  :headscratch:  at:

1. So many "jabo" being run right off base at the closest enemy vehicle spawn
2. picking the aforementioned jabos, often in range of ack/gv fire

In the top ten most used (deaths + kills) vehicles... 6-7 are gv.

The game dynamic is shifting, and I think in a positive way, as HTC seems to be working towards separating the air/ground combat from the whack a mole it is now, to something more planes vs planes, gv/fps vs same, with planes going after them with somewhat less "clarity" - and accuracy (we're way too proficient at bombing, dive or level on small targets. low-level carpet bombing will become much more difficult, as well.)  What would be helpful, would be newer maps where the airfield isn't so much a target unto itself, as opposed to some other target (town or factory or whatever) that isn't quite so close to the airfield. Toss in some of the "should also defend a capture" ideas and things look pretty interesting.

We'll see.


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Re: Question for VBrigade guys
« Reply #119 on: January 23, 2012, 09:56:26 PM »
Hoards are for the unskilled.

Isn't a horde also a mission or a squad flying together?
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