Joe Paterno dead at 85

[Delirium]

Well, at list we know where we all stand and some guys have moved way up on my respect list.

I think the list is divided by parents vs people without kids/Penn State fans.

[SmokinLoon]

I think the list is divided by parents vs people without kids/Penn State fans.

Nah, not quite.  Do not be so assuming.  I have a 9yo son who enjoys playing AH and a 6yo daughter who pokes fun at dad and brother when they get shot down in AH. I'm also an Iowa Hawkeye fan, certainly not a Penn State fan.  But I have the utmost respect for Joe Paterno and Penn State's football program (and the entire institution, really).  The alleged actions of a former coach (however much of a dirtbag he may be), the perceived "lack" of actions by a few people (namely Joe) in running to the police, and the first hand knowledge and experience of NEVER jumping to conclusions on an issue because of the variables that are %100 unknown, forces me to not jump on the "lynch him" bandwagon like those obvious in this thread.  If you or anyone else on that bandwagon were mature enough and experienced enough you'd know that too. 

If Joe would have been put on trial, found guilty of the XYZ charge in relation to the alleged crime, then sure.  Scar his cheek and lock him up.  But until then, learn to accept that you and anyone else simply does not know the intricate details, and find the courage to realize that jumping on the "lynch him" bandwagon is wrong.  Now go forth and be at peace.    

[dedalos]

I think the list is divided by parents vs people without kids/Penn State fans.

Heh, and how much being a celebrity can buy you in this world or how shallow people can be.  They are talking about Joe's (talking about him using his first name as if they are some how buddies, lol) accomplishments as if he actually did something for man kind, however most would have to Google Louis Pasteur to figure out who he was even though he has probably saved their lives a few times   

[Shuffler]

Nah, not quite.  Do not be so assuming.  I have a 9yo son who enjoys playing AH and a 6yo daughter who pokes fun at dad and brother when they get shot down in AH. I'm also an Iowa Hawkeye fan, certainly not a Penn State fan.  But I have the utmost respect for Joe Paterno and Penn State's football program (and the entire institution, really).  The alleged actions of a former coach (however much of a dirtbag he may be), the perceived "lack" of actions by a few people (namely Joe) in running to the police, and the first hand knowledge and experience of NEVER jumping to conclusions on an issue because of the variables that are %100 unknown, forces me to not jump on the "lynch him" bandwagon like those obvious in this thread.  If you or anyone else on that bandwagon were mature enough and experienced enough you'd know that too. 

If Joe would have been put on trial, found guilty of the XYZ charge in relation to the alleged crime, then sure.  Scar his cheek and lock him up.  But until then, learn to accept that you and anyone else simply does not know the intricate details, and find the courage to realize that jumping on the "lynch him" bandwagon is wrong.  Now go forth and be at peace.    

I know he said in court papers that he should have done more. I think your going to find the unknowns are just going to be worse than what is already known.

We know paterno did not go to the police. We know he did not follow through. We know he thought he did not do enough.


We know his type are a blessing to child molesters.

How anyone can have kids and not be highly concerned at this type behavior is frightening.

[Delirium]

How anyone can have kids and not be highly concerned at this type behavior is frightening.

Agreed. I am sure the opinion of the other poster would be FAR different if his son was raped by Sandusky and then covered up by the college.

[dunnrite]

How anyone can have kids and not be highly concerned at this type behavior is frightening.

Agreed. I am sure the opinion of the other poster would be FAR different if his son was raped by Sandusky and then covered up by the college.

No doubt...and the fact that I agree with RPM and ded in one thread makes me a little sick to my stomach.

[dedalos]

No doubt...and the fact that I agree with RPM and ded in one thread makes me a little sick to my stomach.

 

[SmokinLoon]

Agreed. I am sure the opinion of the other poster would be FAR different if his son was raped by Sandusky and then covered up by the college.

You made a key statement right there: Sandusky and covered up by the college.  My question is why is there such a movement to lynch Joe and not McQueary, or the AD, or college president, etc.  The focus seems to be targeted at Joe, he was one link in the chain and he did what he was supposed to do with the info he had presented to him. 

[dedalos]

You made a key statement right there: Sandusky and covered up by the college.  My question is why is there such a movement to lynch Joe and not McQueary, or the AD, or college president, etc.  The focus seems to be targeted at Joe, he was one link in the chain and he did what he was supposed to do with the info he had presented to him. 

Because no one in here wrote anything about the others, making excuses for them, and explaining to us why they should get a free pass on this.  The fact that others (non national heroes) were involved does not remove his responsibility.

[Delirium]

You made a key statement right there: Sandusky and covered up by the college. 

That statement was to include Paterno, not exclude him.

[Shuffler]

You made a key statement right there: Sandusky and covered up by the college.  My question is why is there such a movement to lynch Joe and not McQueary, or the AD, or college president, etc.  The focus seems to be targeted at Joe, he was one link in the chain and he did what he was supposed to do with the info he had presented to him. 

Paterno failed just like the others. He is the only one being put on a pedestal in this thread. A place he no longer should hold in anyone's eyes.

[321BAR]

I think the list is divided by parents vs people without kids/Penn State fans.

im 21 and i dont agree with what he did?

[fudgums]

Excellent speeches going on currently at the public funeral. Its on ESPN right now if anyone cares too watch.

So much love to the man, excellent role model, and a hero for kids trying to do it the right way. 

[fudgums]

"If there is a villain in this tragedy, it lies in that investigation, not in Joe Paterno's response," -Phil Knight, Nike CEO

[coombz]

You guys defending him are pathetic. Why did he not call the cops immediately? Hopefully it wont be one of your kids in a similar situation. F JoPa and all you supporters. I hope it was a slow painful death.