'Might have' beens or 'real life' arguments...

[Ruah]

i agree with Karnak that the amount of ords that P51s (as well as others) can carry is a bit excessive and that 1000 pounders should have perks attatched so that dedicated ground attack planes have a role rather then the cooky cutter P51 'look I do everything' super planes can get back to air superiority roles - which is what they did during the war for the most part.

As far as the 205 with a bomb - I don't see how it would break the game - spits can carry bombs but almost never do, as do a whole host of other planes.  Of course this is about historical validity - and in the case of the Axis - there were lots of 'rare' things towards the end of the war when the industrial machine was breaking down and ground crews and pilots were improvising more and more in a desperate attempt.  Easy enough to just bolt on a rack and put a bomb on it if that was needed and I am sure that sort of thing was done a lot.  The criteria for making it available in-game relies very heavily on 'official', 'well documented' and 'tested' and for the axis, that means 'we' lose out on a lot of options.

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[Butcher]

In the P51's case, if the ords of Rockets/bomb combination was so entirely rare why not perk it instead? standard load could be either 6 rockets or 2x bombs the combination would be perked.

[hotard]

It was NOT extremely rare.   Blue on Blue kills were sadly far more common then ever admitted.  Odds are very high that Guy Gibson of Dambusters fame was killed by a Lanc Rear Gunner when he got too close in his Mossie.

Just finished reading a book on the day W/C Douglas Bader was shot down.  Very detailed research on every bird that went down that day and it's 99 percent certain he was shot down by another Spit.  What's scary is how many Spits were shot down by other Spits that day.  In the craziness of a fight, anything can happen.

Johnny Godfrey of 4th FG fame was shot down by his Wingman

Flotsom, the term used in the RAF was "Lack of Moral Fiber" or LMF.  I don't ever recall reading about planes being intercepted that refused to fly on to the target.  People aborting with mechanical problems that couldn't be replicated on the ground happened, and tended to be one of the early signs.  They were usually removed from the squadrons quickly.  From what I can tell the RAF tended to handle it differently depending on each case too as sometimes guys who'd flown a long time hit their limit.  The pilots and aircrew referred to it as getting the 'twitch'.

When I was researching the Spit XII guys there were a couple of folks mentioned.  One was a guy on his second tour.  He'd survived the FW190 domination flying Spit Vs in 41-42 and was on his second tour flying XIIs.  When they were transitioning he actually went AWOL up into the hills in Wales.  He did come back but he was sure he wasn't going to survive.  And he didn't, killed in October 43.  The other was brought up by a few different pilots to me.  He was a squadron leader, survived the Battle of Britain and Malta as well as Sweeps over France.  They were convinced he was backing out as he'd abort over the Channel often on the way across.  I came across stuff from him, and he talked about constant drop tank feed trouble and the 'lemon' he had for a Spit.  Whose to say what it was and I'd be hard pressed to call him a coward.  He finished up the war in a few different units that taught fighter tactics etc.  

Butch O'hare was also (most likely) killed by the rear turret gunner in a TBM.

Don't confuse friendly fire accidents with deliberate orderd shoot-downs of friendly aircraft.  Such and order based upon "lacking moral fiber" would be in fact an illegal order, and the duty of the office being given the order to refuse.

[Soulyss]

Butch O'hare was also (most likely) killed by the rear turret gunner in a TBM.

Don't confuse friendly fire accidents with deliberate orderd shoot-downs of friendly aircraft.  Such and order based upon "lacking moral fiber" would be in fact an illegal order, and the duty of the office being given the order to refuse.

Accidental friendly fire deaths were of common and I don't know of any cases where pilots knowingly shot at friendlies, there were cases where the ID and affiliation of a certain aircraft couldn't be confirmed and that led to it being downed by friendly forces. 

Cyclone" Davis of 35th FS fame was forced to down a PBY on 12/27/43.  He was patrolling and came across an A/C that he identified as a PBY but the plane refused (or couldn't) make the proper radio identification, when he closed for visual inspection the PBY fired on him.  The standing policy at the time was that all aircraft had to be identified, if they couldn't be they were to be destroyed.  Davis lined up and downed the PBY, he was able to damage it just enough and the PBY was able to land in the water below.  When he got home he learned that it was indeed an American aircraft, one PBY crew member was wounded in the incident.

[save]

Later the mustang was used for ground attack in Korea. They paid dearly because of their suceptable radiators.

Why dont they pay dearly in AH2 because of their suceptable radiators ????

[Karnak]

Why dont they pay dearly in AH2 because of their suceptable radiators ????

They do, but it doesn't matter much.  Particularly to the bomb and auger crowd.