I agree with Irishone. It is perfect at 25 and I will not rant as he did, as I fly the 190s very sparingly. However, when I started playing AH back in 2008, I was a 190A8 NOOB and all I flew was the damn thing because of its gun package. I would HO HO HO away and loved it. As I became a better pilot (and I suck) I used it less and less. I never fly the DOra or A5 unless in the AvA or when I can get into and FSO. I usually use the 190F as my attack ride only because the rockets give you and added ounch when porking or hittin GVs. I used to use the Mossy or 110 for my Buff hunting sorties but have lately went to the A8 because of the gun package and it seems to take a little more punishment as far as the 190 series (maybe im just smoking crack when I say that lol). The A8 is a very fun plane to fly and you can rack up the perks in it. You GO IRISH, You GO!!!