Bombing Target Designation Question

[JunkyII]

I know what you were saying, pretty sure I can bring up threads showing how I'm one of the...loudest voices against destroying FHs, overkill and such, where you found your gap for a clever troll was my wording for POTW being less organized when we hit a base.

A troll is still a Troll We just got eachothers backs in POTW

[Chilli]

I want to focus on what Fugitive said about depending on each other to do our parts.

I have had some confusion on assignments even though they were clearly stated, using both numbering and location clues.  I like to be able to hit the target I was assigned or at the very least be able to identify that I missed.

Even the ability to know that you recognize that you hit the wrong target can be the difference in working as a cohesive unit and just making a lot of noise.  Hangar banging has been referred to in terms that are equally as dismissed as hording, and both have an important role in driving game play and drawing out defensive players to engage. 

Getting bombers lined up and assigned to hit specific targets is like herding cats (not my words, and I can't remember who said it.... but fits the situation very well).  Actually, it is a welcome sight to have escorts and jabos tagging along to finish the job. 

[JunkyII]

I want to focus on what Fugitive said about depending on each other to do our parts.

I have had some confusion on assignments even though they were clearly stated, using both numbering and location clues.  I like to be able to hit the target I was assigned or at the very least be able to identify that I missed.

Even the ability to know that you recognize that you hit the wrong target can be the difference in working as a cohesive unit and just making a lot of noise.  Hangar banging has been referred to in terms that are equally as dismissed as hording, and both have an important role in driving game play and drawing out defensive players to engage. 

Getting bombers lined up and assigned to hit specific targets is like herding cats (not my words, and I can't remember who said it.... but fits the situation very well).  Actually, it is a welcome sight to have escorts and jabos tagging along to finish the job. 

The old airfields/v base seemed to be easier to call out where they were by what they were near....new hangars are harder to see because of other things on base(at least to me)

[Spikes]

"Kill what's still up"?

[The Fugitive]

I want to focus on what Fugitive said about depending on each other to do our parts.

I have had some confusion on assignments even though they were clearly stated, using both numbering and location clues.  I like to be able to hit the target I was assigned or at the very least be able to identify that I missed.

Even the ability to know that you recognize that you hit the wrong target can be the difference in working as a cohesive unit and just making a lot of noise.  Hangar banging has been referred to in terms that are equally as dismissed as hording, and both have an important role in driving game play and drawing out defensive players to engage. 

Getting bombers lined up and assigned to hit specific targets is like herding cats (not my words, and I can't remember who said it.... but fits the situation very well).  Actually, it is a welcome sight to have escorts and jabos tagging along to finish the job. 

Rob52240 aka vWNTRGRN, vPUB321 is fond of saying running missions is like that, and I agree wholeheartedly. Most players don't take the time to learn the skills needed to succeed with skill and tactics and so they run with the rest of the cats lobbin bombs every which way. It is what a horde depends on. That is why you won't see a "mission leader" split up his mission as the numbers grow because they KNOW they can't count on the players to get the jobs done with out all that extra support.

As the game continues, more and more people will join the horde because it is human nature to take the easier path and so the horde will become the norm.

[Chilli]

So, I have read 2 posts that have different target designation.  The one that I have seen most frequently is the one in Trukk's original post.  I was very interested in this question (not just because he is my CO  ) but rather because the bomber / jabo (tool shedder) bug bit me long ago, and as Junky points out the last generation of fields have moved along with a number of additions and things to confuse as your primary target. 

Pand has done a great job as well as many others probably in making maps with designations added to targets.  I even played with the idea of color coding certain zones to help with quick positioning of bombers and assignment of targets.

  It wasn't until right now that I recognize that Pand's designation (which I have set as default for Medium field) is different, and therefore my confusion on targets    Instead of clockwise designation they are numbered top to bottom.  It seems that herding cats is even more difficult when the cats have different meanings for the same commands. 

Notice the Blue and Red Zones have the most High Value field targets.  Therefore attacking from the south I would assign most bombers through the middle and eastern portions of the base.

[Trukk]

Thanks for the input guys. We'll stick with what we have as that appears to be just as good a standard as anything.

One thing I don't get though (and since it popped up in this thread) are these "aw shucks" posts by P-38 drivers.  Sure it has it's strengths and weaknesses, but it's a very competitive fighter and we do very well in them.

[FiberOne]

Suggestion: HTC coordinate with whomever (1 person or a designated advisory group) and standardize the numeration and/or colorization of the maps when they are being developed or have them submitted (like skins) for adoption/approval by HTC for implementation game wide. Standardization! What a concept.

[Zoney]

Fugative, must you hijack every thread with your invaluable advice about how everyone else should play?  Seriously.

We get it, you don't like the way people play.

We've heard your reasons countless times.

"You'll never improve flying like that"

"The way you play ruins the game"

ad infinitum.

Give it a rest already mate <S>.

[Noir]

we could wish for the in game maps to be edited to have numbers on them.

[titanic3]

1 guy for the VH, another for backup.
3 guys for any GVs that got out and de acking.
1 Bomber for town.
2 guys for town deack.
1 goon.
2 guys fly high fighter cap at all times.

10 people is all you need for a base.

[Dragon]

1 guy for the VH, another for backup.
3 guys for any GVs that got out and de acking.
1 Bomber for town.
2 guys for town deack.
1 goon.
2 guys fly high fighter cap at all times.

10 people is all you need for a base.

I see your 10 and (raise?) you to 3. 

1 P47 to drop VH and town guns
1 Wirble in town
1 troop drop

15 min later and we post a new color flag and declare "This Is Sparta!"


 

[guncrasher]

A perfect horde mentality answer.

No need to assign targets because most of the horde can't hit what they are aiming for any way. Also, you have soooooo many bombs that missing with 80% is ok, there are plenty to pick up the slack.  

Not picking on the POTW here, for all we know Junky has once again engaged his mouth without starting the old brain   However this is becoming more and more the mind set with players today. I join missions more often than not as most of my squad is in semi retirement and when I have a mission leader come out with "bomb everything until is all down" I just roll out of formation and go look for a different fight.

More often than not I fly with the 365th FBG Hell Hawks. They are a fun group to fly with, and they are pretty talented when it comes to playing the game. Missions are organized, but there is no "yes sir, no sir" crap. Everyone has a bit in the mission and the "team" is counting on you to do your part. These guys do it right, I wish more squads would.

fugi stick to making cartoons you are pretty good at it.  the other part about whining on everythread about how one should or shouldnt play the game is getting old.


smep

[The Fugitive]

Fugative, must you hijack every thread with your invaluable advice about how everyone else should play?  Seriously.

We get it, you don't like the way people play.

We've heard your reasons countless times.

"You'll never improve flying like that"

"The way you play ruins the game"

ad infinitum.

Give it a rest already mate <S>.

Seeing as this forum is for information and discussions of the game I will continue to use it as such. If you don't like what I post don't read it. If your eyes are continuously drawn to my posts due to the powerful typing I employee you can use the handy little function called "ignore". It can be found by clicking on "Profile" link in the header of this page and then click on "Personal Message Options". There you can add my name to the big white box and never have to worry about being caught reading one of my posts.

See, I was helpful by providing information and once again using this board as intended. Unlike how you did.  

fugi stick to making cartoons you are pretty good at it.  the other part about whining on everythread about how one should or shouldnt play the game is getting old.


smep

ahhh yes, another "porker" heard from I KNOW you didn't understand what I posted and you prove it so well in your reply here. You have a problem reading and writing.

Your name is spelled "Semp", not "smep".  

[JunkyII]

Grace us with thy wisdom Fugi, your words are so powerful.