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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 02:10:15 PM »
That's very cool, but why would they name a sub after a spaghetti dish?  ;)

Well clueless because the USN named their subs after fish, in this case. Carbonero is a a salt-water fish found in the West Indies.


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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2012, 02:14:51 PM »
By the way, for folks interested in recommendations for books on WWII submarine activity, I thought that The Bravest Man, by Tuohy and Silent Running, by Calvert were excellent.

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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2012, 02:16:57 PM »
Well clueless because the USN named their subs after fish, in this case. Carbonero is a a salt-water fish found in the West Indies.



... USS Carbonara ...

And in there lies the joke, clueless.
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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2012, 06:34:34 PM »
It is keel depth when operating. When moored however the deepest point is the bottom of the rudder on modern US boats (ie: draft) and is measured by white painted draft readings on the forward edge of the upper rudder which sticks up above the water.

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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2012, 07:13:00 PM »
The USS Carbonero was decommissioned on December 1, 1970. On April 27, 1975, she was taken to sea for one last time and used as a test target for a Mark 48 torpedo fired by the USS Pogy SSN647. The Carbonero rests in Hawaiian waters at a depth of 2340 fathoms.   

that deep? wasn't the ship I was going to dive on then, mine rests at some 140 feet of water  :uhoh
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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2012, 07:19:37 PM »
That does make sense...but periscope depth from what I've heard is way to shallow for that to mean keel. 

Keel depth always. There are several depths that are of major concern for a submarine and each varies from class to class. Test depth for certain (max normal operating depth), the depth in which you broach the sail making the submarine visible to radar and visual contacts, periscope depth(most masts and antennas also work at periscope depth with the exception of the induction mast that takes sea conditions into account), and the depth at which you can efficiently dewater the ship in the event of flooding.
Some other tidbits for you: any tank exposed to sea pressure is considered a hard tank and can be pumped to sea at any depth, but under normal operating conditions for safety reasons normal ship keeping functions are restricted to shallower depths. Trim tanks, depth control tanks, and aux ballast tanks are hard tanks pumped to and from to balance the ship and fine tune bouyancy. Main ballast tanks are not exposed to sea pressure since they are open to the sea at the bottom of the ship at all times. Trash is compacted and weighted, then put in a mini tube and flooded to sea. Sanitary tanks on my boat were pressurized with air and blown to sea.

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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2012, 08:12:15 PM »
...don't ever flush if you see bubbles coming up from the bottom of the bowl !!!


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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 12:58:08 PM »
That is very cool HT,
A present for you if you have never seen it.
http://issuu.com/hnsa/docs/ss-337_carbonero?mode=a_p

Some of these reports are far far better then fiction.
http://hnsa.org/doc/subreports.htm


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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 01:32:15 PM »
That is very cool HT,
A present for you if you have never seen it.
http://issuu.com/hnsa/docs/ss-337_carbonero?mode=a_p

Some of these reports are far far better then fiction.
http://hnsa.org/doc/subreports.htm



Thanks pongo, I nor my dad had seen those docs.

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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2012, 09:35:48 AM »
HiTech, I was browsing through WWII Database color shots and stumbled upon this:



From the periscope of the Carbonero during "Operation Dominic".
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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2012, 09:51:28 AM »
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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2012, 07:53:07 PM »
Very cool

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Re: stupid submarine question
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2012, 03:59:45 PM »
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