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Offline SFRT - Frenchy

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A white x on a runway
« on: April 17, 2012, 12:24:19 AM »
For you FAR book worms, I saw a  short runway in a canyon with a white X painted right at the end on both sides. I mean right at the end like to mark the last 10y off.

Private runway? Closed to commercial operation? Don't use the Xe :confused:d portion? Was out of yellow paint?
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 12:35:48 AM »
They could have used the Meigs Field "Daley method".
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 12:57:37 AM »
The X means the runway/airport is closed to operations.

I have seen some private strips marked with an X to keep folks other than the owner from using it.
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 01:28:39 AM »
Quote from: colmbo on April 17, 2012, 12:57:37 AM
The X means the runway/airport is closed to operations.

I have seen some private strips marked with an X to keep folks other than the owner from using it.

Yup, we have one here near Canyon Lake that has the exact same thing.
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 05:55:41 AM »
I like the big flashing X's that are on stands. They look cool at night
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Offline SFRT - Frenchy

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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 07:31:46 AM »
Quote from: colmbo on April 17, 2012, 12:57:37 AM
The X means the runway/airport is closed to operations.

I have seen some private strips marked with an X to keep folks other than the owner from using it.

No a yellow X is a closed runway, not white. FAA is picky with colors.
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 07:36:17 AM »
Quote from: SFRT - Frenchy on April 17, 2012, 07:31:46 AM
No a yellow X is a closed runway, not white. FAA is picky with colors.

I'm pretty sure it's the same thing.
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 07:54:53 AM »
Quote from: MachFly on April 17, 2012, 07:36:17 AM
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing.

As am I.

The "X" means  that the runway is temporarily closed.  Some commercial airports have a trailer with a big "X" on it for runway/taxiway maintenance.

Color matters not.
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 08:11:32 AM »
Quote from: MachFly on April 17, 2012, 07:36:17 AM
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing.

The FAA goes out of their way in an AC to denote closure markings as yellow X's. Whether some airports need not consider that guidance applicable because of not receiving federal funding for instance or for any other host of reasons I don't know about, I don't know. I'm not going to pretend to be "pretty sure" about something I know I don't know.

There could always be a notam that says nonstandard runway/taxiway markings. Our local airport honchos went out and painted a hold short line where there wasn't supposed to be one so we had that going for a while.

If its a private strip it may just keep uninvited yahoos away just the same.

Or maybe all you saw was some light from Venus refracted through some swamp gas.
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 08:20:39 AM »




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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 08:27:37 AM »
Yep, the raised X's are cool.

I have heard of a few instances where there was a white X marking a closed runway, but was later converted to a yellow X.

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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2012, 08:34:45 AM »
Quote from: B4Buster on April 17, 2012, 08:27:37 AM
Yep, the raised X's are cool.

I have heard of a few instances where there was a white X marking a closed runway, but was later converted to a yellow X.



I attribute it to a lack of yellow paint when it was needed, and laziness thereafter...
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2012, 08:36:35 AM »
I think Frenchy just didn't get the memo that some airports have roman numeral markings and what he saw was just Runway 10
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2012, 08:50:51 AM »
Quote from: VonMessa on April 17, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
As am I.

The "X" means  that the runway is temporarily closed.  Some commercial airports have a trailer with a big "X" on it for runway/taxiway maintenance.

Color matters not.

Dude, you are freaking me out. Not trying to play God's gift to aviation here, but a professional pilot should pay attention to detail. If you just completed a low RVR landing and your taxiway centerline is solid white ... You might be scratching your wingtip on something, or about to come nose to nose with a car.  Same with your cockpit lights, steady amber, flashing amber, steady red ... Different color for a different action
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Re: A white x on a runway
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2012, 08:53:52 AM »
Quote from: Golfer on April 17, 2012, 08:36:35 AM
I think Frenchy just didn't get the memo that some airports have roman numeral markings and what he saw was just Runway 10
:rofl  Dam ICAO.
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