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Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« on: May 02, 2012, 06:40:23 PM »
Which allied ack gun type used the proximity fuse against V1's?

Manned positions of those on feilds and even towns would certainly help to defend against hoards. Consider how many fighters get taken out inside of 2.5k near a CV by 5inch gunners. What kind of feild day would 2-3 lucky guys have popping up in these when a late night vTard zombie wave shows up? I've taken part in 5inch slaughter fests of 20 plane mass wave missions attacking a CV. Stops the hoard cold. Bring your CV in too close and one guy vulches your planes on the deck from shore. Or chews up the bomb delivery conga line heading in from the CV to the feild long enough for a good defence to get off the deck.

Only down side is you would not be able to safely furball close to feilds. Some players would hide behind their freinds in those manned positions unless a few pilots braved taking them out. 5k pinpoint bombing strikes targeting ack maybe? It might change the take a base by hoard swamping to using a bit of thought about just how good the guys in the proximity fuze guns are. Probably just make them target (1) ahead of everything else. All those C47 that used to hang at 5k out and dive in at the last moment would have more to worry about. How long ago did you say those guns went down...........boom!! Yeppers that long ago............

It's kind of sad when you have to come up with something like this to counter a game play fad that just won't go away. At least finaly something might force the knights to de-ack first, furball second........maybe.
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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 06:10:08 AM »
My guess is Brit 3.7 inch. Would guess the major part of the US ack ack would have been in / heading to Normandy.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 06:35:48 AM »
From George G. Blackburn's Where The Hell Are The Guns?:

The buzz-bomb menace, which, for several weeks at the beginning, seriously reduced production of goods and services vital to the prosecution of the war (according to the diary notes of the Chief of the Imperial General Staff, General Alan Brooke) was brought under control by the timely arrival on the ack-ack (anti-aircraft) gunnery scene of the proximity fuse - a Canadian-American invention based on a British idea. Shells from the 3.7-inch ack-ack guns, which would have sailed past a few feet from a buzz bomb, were caused to burst and send lethal fragments into the buzz bombs' vitals when a tiny radio-transmitter bounced back from the pilotless monster.

The Americans developed the tiny radio transmitter and receiver. Canada supplied the design for a dependable power supply, which had to have long storage life but produce instant power to the little radio transmitter as the shell left the gun. Regular tiny batteries, with their limited shelf life, were useless, but scientists at the National Research Council in Ottawa, working with industrial scientists in Toronto, produced the answer: a battery that would remain dormant until activated by acid from a tiny vial broken within the fuse by the shocking wham of the propellant charge sending the shell on its way.1

http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/weapons/ammunition/proximityfuze.htm
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 07:12:22 AM »
proxy-fused puffy ack at fields?

I'll cancel my sub the minute this gets introduced.
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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 07:33:49 AM »
proxy-fused puffy ack at fields?

I'll cancel my sub the minute this gets introduced.

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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 08:24:36 AM »
This is all good IF the towns are moved away from fields. I am all for making a "safe zone" around airfields provided it does not extend over the land grab objective..........i.e. the town.
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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 04:53:58 PM »
It's the only thing I could think of as a tool based change to the game to satisfy the other pissed off game quitters becasue of the base rolling zombi carpet hoards who don't want to engage in air combat. You have seen what one guy with a 5incher can do to a big furball. And I've been part of 3 guys in 5 inchers stopping 20-30 plane wave attacks on CV.

I'm not suggesting AI auto puffy. Just manned positions and a limited number. Probably the same number as 88 already on each feild or only place them in towns. 30 guys in attacker configuration can neutralise an airfeild in minutes now. Then a few followup guys can take the town down to 20% and the waiting C47's or M3 just rush in. How long ago did Hitech introduce the new town? Three years? Thats about the life span of any major game change to the amount of time it takes to adapt strategies to it and make it irrelvant as an obstacle.

A handfull of Brit 3.7 with prox-fuse have a reasonable chance of slowing down the effectiveness of the hoard just long enough for a good defence to mount. And when they miss their timing on the town, it just takes one to pop back up to ruin their day. Just like 88 are wisely targeted by the first jabo wave, these will to as the counter strategy to their effectiveness. But, some players seem to watch the map more closely than others for zombie hoard sign.

It's probably just time for Hitech to throw another monkey wrench into the game that forces a new 3 year adaptation cycle with the random screwups that force the combat avoiders together with the seekers. It's always around this time in the cycle that everyone has streamlined their game play strategies and processes. The combat avoiders for the most part don't have to face you by accident and the combat seekers know where the combat is and generaly who wants to fight. That rinse and repeat kind of feeling has set in again.

Same thing happens with my in the house only 5 cats about every 6 months. So I swap out all the toys and move around the cat stands. Change their food brand and move the bird feeders out side the windows around along with the bird fountains. This game is no different in that we need an occasianal change of novelty to help us restimulate our imaginations. Kind of why Frederick's of Hollywood stays in business and therapists suggest adding some untried spice to the routine at night.
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Re: Which Allied Ack Used the Proximity Fuse Against V1's?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 05:05:43 PM »
The US 90 mm used proximity fused shells.