C205: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

[morfiend]

And yet the G-2 has an ENY of 30 while the 205 has 25.

But I stopped trying to understand the 109 series ENY values when the G-14 went from 20 to 25 instead of lowering the K-4's from 20 to 15 or even less. For now I just enjoy the easily  generated perks...

  Lusche,   there you go making sense again!   I think too much empethes is put on weapons and not enough on overall performance.  While the G2 is superior in many ways the 205 has more firepower. The K4's eny value is supposed to be tied to the 30mm gun and it's difficult ballistics but it's dominating performance is overlooked......



   

[Rich52]

no rich, you dont seem to get it. never mind.

Im very patient if you care to post "exactly" how you recomend flying the thing. It just seems to me like your saying two conflicting things.

[The Fugitive]

You seem to be saying two things now. Now your saying bring the 205 low and use its ROC against the hordes of Spits, Nikis, KI's, 109s, LAs, 190s, that outclimb you and mostly out turn you? Let alone the "E" fighters coming in at 450 mph of smash? From what I can see the only chance in a 205 is to come in with air under you and fly it like a 38. Unfortunatly the dynamics of the game makes it a low Alt game most of the time.

Now if a base is it 10 or 15 k, and another team wants to capture it it would be reasonable to think they cant go below 10 or 15 k to capture it. Or even vulch it. So the high altitude interceptors, like the 205, would have the advantage. Or at least be equalized more. This is a 400 mph + fighter at 20k or more.

Just seems to me any climb advantage at 5k or less is kinda negated by being a bow wow with speed and at best a marginal turner.

It seems to me that he is saying "fly it from a perch". Start at a mid alt and attack cons at the same alt, maybe a bit lower. Fight the fight up where the other planes have a harder time to go. Maintain a ceiling, don't follow/chase bogies down. Make them come UP to you. Force them to fight your fight where you can use the few advantages the 205 has.

[Tank-Ace]

It seems to me that he is saying "fly it from a perch". Start at a mid alt and attack cons at the same alt, maybe a bit lower. Fight the fight up where the other planes have a harder time to go. Maintain a ceiling, don't follow/chase bogies down. Make them come UP to you. Force them to fight your fight where you can use the few advantages the 205 has.

Maybe, but the comment about 'giving up' your ROC advantage doesn't really fit in with this. If you start high and BnZ those below, you don't give up any advantages. You still have the advantage in climb, you simply don't need to utilize it.

[The Fugitive]

Nobody said anything about "starting high". I said mid alts 7-12k. Most fights are below that. Park your self between the base and a fight and shake your tail at those climbing out to the fight. You'll find your self plenty of takers..... and scalps.

[Tank-Ace]

First of all, I don't find it true that all my 205 fights end up on the deck. In fact rarely do they. Further, it's not a downhill fighter. It's an uphill fighter. It can regain E with copious WEP usage and climb over other targets, so why would you want to start high and give your one advantage (rate of climb) away?

I'm well aware of how to effectively use the C.205. I remember when I was on a roll with it, me and about 4 others were playing some agressive defense, and intercepting incoming attackers. Our base was a bit higher, so I would generally come in a couple thousand feet above them catch them still clawing for altitude.

[The Fugitive]

First of all, I don't find it true that all my 205 fights end up on the deck. In fact rarely do they. Further, it's not a downhill fighter. It's an uphill fighter. It can regain E with copious WEP usage and climb over other targets, so why would you want to start high and give your one advantage (rate of climb) away?

Thats what he is saying, why start high? Come in at mid alt and use your climb to drag the bad guys up to you.

[Tank-Ace]

As I understood it, he was saying 'why start high(er than your opponent) and give up your one advantage'.

That might not be what he was saying, but thats how I took it.

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if I were you guys I would not listen to Krusty when it comes to fighting.....

no disrespect Krusty..... I call it the way I see it, your just not that good at it.....


and yes I will go to DA anytime.

[FireDrgn]

if I were you guys I would not listen to Krusty when it comes to fighting.....

no disrespect Krusty..... I call it the way I see it, your just not that good at it.....


and yes I will go to DA anytime.

 
sounds personal to me you could have easily taken the high road on this one. 

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sounds personal to me you could have easily taken the high road on this one. 

ahhhh....just ribbin krusty a bit is all