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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2012, 11:59:48 PM »
A crappy, last minute defense is better than no defense at all. ;)
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 12:10:26 AM »
Why would they keep it in condition to be able to fight? The more advanced ships of other navies could god forbid, knock a old ship like that out of the water with the newer technologies. Is the USS Missouri in the same condition to where it could be recommissioned fast if it had to?

All four Iowa class ships are decommissioned, but well maintained. They could, if the need arise, be refitted for use... It would take at least a year for the machinery, and I don't know about powder and shell...

With Iowa going to LA, she's the last to finally get a port. New Jersey is in the Delaware River at Camden. Wisconsin is tied up alongside the Nauticus Museum, in Norfolk harbor. Missouri is tied up in Pearl Harbor, adjacent to the Arizona.

When the Wisconsin and Missouri were in action during the Gulf War, they were armed with 32 Tomahawks, 16 Harpoons and four 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts. If these were reactivated, Navy preliminary plans in 2010 called for the installation of four RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile systems, and two RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile systems. In addition, a radar suite based on that of the Arleigh Burke class DDs was under consideration. That said, it's highly unlikely that any of these ships will ever be recommissioned. If these ships were to come back to service, they would have all of the latest technology, and the ability to shrug off hits that would do serious damage to anything else in the fleet.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 12:27:06 AM »
All four Iowa class ships are decommissioned, but well maintained. They could, if the need arise, be refitted for use... It would take at least a year for the machinery, and I don't know about powder and shell...

With Iowa going to LA, she's the last to finally get a port. New Jersey is in the Delaware River at Camden. Wisconsin is tied up alongside the Nauticus Museum, in Norfolk harbor. Missouri is tied up in Pearl Harbor, adjacent to the Arizona.

When the Wisconsin and Missouri were in action during the Gulf War, they were armed with 32 Tomahawks, 16 Harpoons and four 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts. If these were reactivated, Navy preliminary plans in 2010 called for the installation of four RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile systems, and two RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile systems. In addition, a radar suite based on that of the Arleigh Burke class DDs was under consideration. That said, it's highly unlikely that any of these ships will ever be recommissioned. If these ships were to come back to service, they would have all of the latest technology, and the ability to shrug off hits that would do serious damage to anything else in the fleet.
So Battleship did get something remotely right as in the 0.00001% range of could happen. Didn't know they had been modernized, read up after you posted and saw that for myself.

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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 12:43:49 AM »
Why would they keep it in condition to be able to fight? The more advanced ships of other navies could god forbid, knock a old ship like that out of the water with the newer technologies. Is the USS Missouri in the same condition to where it could be recommissioned fast if it had to?

Find us a "modern" ship with better armor.  Then keep in mind that it would be given the same countermeasures as anything else in our modern fleet.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2012, 01:37:20 AM »
Why would they keep it in condition to be able to fight? The more advanced ships of other navies could god forbid, knock a old ship like that out of the water with the newer technologies. Is the USS Missouri in the same condition to where it could be recommissioned fast if it had to?

Lol...it would take a nuke to dent it.  I read one Skipper of a Missouri-class BB saying that they could fire all the Silkworm missles they wanted at the ship...all they would need is a bit of new paint afterwards to touch up the damage  :D
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2012, 01:41:02 AM »
Why would they keep it in condition to be able to fight? The more advanced ships of other navies could god forbid, knock a old ship like that out of the water with the newer technologies. Is the USS Missouri in the same condition to where it could be recommissioned fast if it had to?
The firepower these ships have and I'm not talking just about the 16" guns is way off the scale. No they could not knock these old ships out that easily, armor wise they have have more armor than any modern ship period. Self defence systems on these ships make them practically indestructable. The reason they were decomissioned the last time is because of cost. Yes the USS Missouri is. She just came back out of drydock here not too long ago. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the gov is doing lol :salute
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2012, 01:47:05 AM »
We had 6 CWIS systems on the Missouri!!!
All four Iowa class ships are decommissioned, but well maintained. They could, if the need arise, be refitted for use... It would take at least a year for the machinery, and I don't know about powder and shell...

With Iowa going to LA, she's the last to finally get a port. New Jersey is in the Delaware River at Camden. Wisconsin is tied up alongside the Nauticus Museum, in Norfolk harbor. Missouri is tied up in Pearl Harbor, adjacent to the Arizona.

When the Wisconsin and Missouri were in action during the Gulf War, they were armed with 32 Tomahawks, 16 Harpoons and four 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts. If these were reactivated, Navy preliminary plans in 2010 called for the installation of four RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile systems, and two RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile systems. In addition, a radar suite based on that of the Arleigh Burke class DDs was under consideration. That said, it's highly unlikely that any of these ships will ever be recommissioned. If these ships were to come back to service, they would have all of the latest technology, and the ability to shrug off hits that would do serious damage to anything else in the fleet.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 01:49:50 AM »
All four Iowa class ships are decommissioned, but well maintained. They could, if the need arise, be refitted for use... It would take at least a year for the machinery, and I don't know about powder and shell...

With Iowa going to LA, she's the last to finally get a port. New Jersey is in the Delaware River at Camden. Wisconsin is tied up alongside the Nauticus Museum, in Norfolk harbor. Missouri is tied up in Pearl Harbor, adjacent to the Arizona.

When the Wisconsin and Missouri were in action during the Gulf War, they were armed with 32 Tomahawks, 16 Harpoons and four 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts. If these were reactivated, Navy preliminary plans in 2010 called for the installation of four RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile systems, and two RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile systems. In addition, a radar suite based on that of the Arleigh Burke class DDs was under consideration. That said, it's highly unlikely that any of these ships will ever be recommissioned. If these ships were to come back to service, they would have all of the latest technology, and the ability to shrug off hits that would do serious damage to anything else in the fleet.
lol I was on the USS Missouri for the first gulf war. I knew what we had so I never once worried about getting sunk, or even a scratch for that matter!!!!
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 02:09:22 AM »
Military channel says it's the best fighting ship of all time.

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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2012, 02:32:23 AM »
Full of envy, aliens in battleship had no idea what they were up against at the end. Like i've stated before the only scene I really liked in Battleship was when the Missouri dropped anchor, swung out and fired a full broadside into the alien space ship, Ship raped the crap out of the aliens.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2012, 09:09:40 AM »
Why would they keep it in condition to be able to fight? The more advanced ships of other navies could god forbid, knock a old ship like that out of the water with the newer technologies. Is the USS Missouri in the same condition to where it could be recommissioned fast if it had to?

Those things were made with the best steel ever put on a warship. I'd rather be on one of them then even a CV if a missile was IB.

They are not frigates and they would NOT be easy to sink.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2012, 10:43:11 AM »
My father in law was on the Iowa very late in WWII and into the occupation of Japan.  He was studying to be an engineer, so in the Navy he requested to be put in the engine room on a destroyer escort, where he could have some responsibility and have a real impact.  He got the engine room on a battleship instead.  He still vividly recalls the ships in Tokyo Bay painted red/orange for the Bikini atomic tests.

If he can hang on for a couple more years, it would be my privilege to take him to LA to tour his ship once again when it is open.  Hopefully the engine room will be, at Pearl on the Missouri the engine room wasn't open the last time I was there, maybe 6 years or so ago.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2012, 10:51:59 AM »
If he can hang on for a couple more years, it would be my privilege to take him to LA to tour his ship once again when it is open.  Hopefully the engine room will be, at Pearl on the Missouri the engine room wasn't open the last time I was there, maybe 6 years or so ago.

If it's not on the tour, contact the museum and request a guided tour of his old workplace.  Most museums are very open to offering this sort of special tour for veterans.
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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2012, 11:23:17 AM »
I can visit our old WWI/II Battleship Texas (BB-35). It floats just about 2 miles from where I sit right now.



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Re: ONE OF THE LAST OF ITS KIND Battleship USS Iowa
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2012, 11:23:27 AM »
If it's not on the tour, contact the museum and request a guided tour of his old workplace.  Most museums are very open to offering this sort of special tour for veterans.


Since he served on the ship at that time the people in charge of restoration may need some valued input.